Missouri Sen. Josh Hawley’s recent First Things essay, “Our Christian Nation,” may warm the hearts of Christian nationalists and confound historians and theologians who worry about continuing threats to the separation of church and state.

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    9 months ago

    Your entire rebuttal is right wing fantasy. Not everyone has religious parents they live with, let alone have the need to lie to constantly. You may perceive this country as religious, but it is not, by law. Law and money run things in this country. Not sky Fairies.

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      9 months ago

      I think you’ve lost the thread. They are explaining why you are privileged not to have to lie by giving examples of situations that would compel many people to lie.

      Would you say that you’ve been in any of those situations?

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        Lost the thread to a theist on an atheist instance. Lol sure. Atheist are not as incredibly dumb as theists and have a bit more logical thought than that.

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          Now I think you’re a loser because you’ve lost the thread and misinterpreted what I said to mean you’re losing.

          I am not a theist and I see that you’re just not paying attention to what you’re responding to. Almost like Christians to preach while closing your eyes and ears.

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        The whole lying bit itself was a “lost the thread” moment because it was in response to someone saying that they couldn’t say something nice about USA without lying. Which has nothing to do with lying to protect yourself or your position. Turning an offhand “I don’t like lying” into a lecture about privilege isn’t going to win any allies.

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      Your entire rebuttal is right wing fantasy

      Not a right-wing fantasy. Its what happens when you live in a right-wing community.

      Law and money run things in this country. Not sky Fairies.

      When the law and the money believe in the sky fairies, they will enact the Sky Fairy Will in some truly brutal fashion.

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        This would require the sky fairy to be real. Your culture is on its way to the landfill. All you have are two bit con artist snake oil salesmen like Kenneth Copeland, filling their pockets. Morons. Scum. The death rattle of a bygone era, relegated to the dustbin of history. You should stop fighting progress, they’ll be the ones your children will grow to love.

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          This would require the sky fairy to be real.

          Kill in the name of God and your victim will be just as dead as if you killed for secular reasons.

          Your culture is on its way to the landfill.

          Thinkers have been making this claim since the first Enlightenment, back in 1685. But people are as prone to reading messages in their tea leaves now as they were a millennium ago. I don’t see any evidence to conclude that modern day Satanic Panics are less likely than they were under Reagan. And given the number of TV ghost hunters and TikTok psychics and QAnon Shamen I see popping up in my social media feeds, we’re no less likely to kick off another Salem style witch hunt than we were 300 years ago.

          You should stop fighting progress

          My guy, I need to see some progress before I worry about fighting it.