• Chris@feddit.uk
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    3 months ago

    2024 is invisible, the current trend being that you aren’t allowed to see anything you can scroll until you hover over it.

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      3 months ago

      I dislike this trend of invisible UI. I’m (usually) on a 4k screen, I’ve got plenty of room for it, it’s not the early 2000s anymore; stop hiding the fuckin scroll bar or video progress bar

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          3 months ago

          Larger documents that I can drag the scroll bar to specific points, rather than PageUp/down or scroll manually (also wtf is up with acrobats scroll speed?? Shits slow as balls)

      • HEXN3T@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        3 months ago

        I like the trend of invisible UI. It keeps the display free of clutter and persistent UI elements (hello, OLED) and doesn’t hinder usability at all. I hide scroll bars whenever possible because middle clicking is far more convenient than click-dragging. Hidden elements always appear by using a related action–moving the mouse reveals the play bar, scrolling reveals the scroll bar. It’s completely intuitive. I even remove the forward, backward and reload buttons on my browser because gestures and shortcuts are just faster.

        UIs are near-universally as clean and functional as ever… at least on macOS. Windows appears to be a clusterfuck. Linux is alright.

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        3 months ago

        I think most people are on laptops now. Blows my mind but yeah.

        My comparison is that screen size is like desk size. A laptop being those tiny pull out side desks at college, and a monitor being a desk. I was massively downvoted for that. People like their small screens.

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          3 months ago

          I get a poked fun at a little bit on mechanical keyboard communities for preferring a full-size (I gotta type IP’s, need a numpad!).

          I don’t think I could work solely on a laptop without external peripherals, it’s just not a good experience (also giant hands and chiclet keys is not a good combo). My work laptop exists permanently folded closed connected to a dock.

          I’d put the analogy as trying to cook a multi-course meal in a saucepan on a single burner vs a full stovetop and set of pans (also you only have a paring knife).

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            Not to be “that keyboard guy,” but you can still have a full numpad on a smaller keyboard using a separate layer that’s triggered by a key being pressed or held.

            I know because I’ve done it - the keys are all grouped into the same orientation, they’re just not labelled. It’s an adjustment, but it’s worth it to me for the extra desk space.

            I get that that’s not really an attractive option for some though.

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              3 months ago

              I tried a TKL and a numpad for a while, but it just wasn’t comfortable for me for some reason. Not a fan of layering, just doesn’t come to me naturally

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                Oof. I’ve been using a 60% split ortho for so long that I forgot some people consider TKL a compromise so they can have a smaller keyboard.

                Not trying to change your habits, just pointing out that adapting is very easy in case you wanted to look into it!

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            3 months ago

            My first real PC game was Civ 2 where I used the numpad to move, with the corners being for diagonals. and yeah, I don’t even really need it 90% of the time, but not having the numpad just feels wrong to me (though yes I still do play Civ 2 from time to time)

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                3 months ago

                The Amiga 600 was criticised for not having a numpad. I don’t think much needed it except DPaint (but that was a bit of very popular software).