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        3 months ago

        I’d say the same thing in a memes community since this showed up in my “Everything” feed.

        Your response came off very mansplainy and a little misogynist and overlooked a ton of shit and at the end went to, “lol, she wants to have sex!”.

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            Maybe, just maybe, she doesn’t believe in that book and doesn’t want your values shoved down her throat.

            Maybe she wants to be able to dress comfortably without the rules of some goat herder’s book of fairytale and moral values.

            Or the right to speak without a man to speak for her.

            Or to open a bank account without her husband or father being on the account too.

            Or one of the other thousands of things women have had to deal with, outside of fucking sexual freedom, or still deal with thanks to this holy book.

            And lastly the freedom to have sex with whatever another consenting adult or adults as she pleases without your fucking judgment.

            Judge not, that ye be not judged.

            For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

            Mathew 7:1-2

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              You game me a bible verse, let me give you one:

              An excellent wife, who can find? For her worth is far above jewels. Proverbs 31:10

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                It doesn’t matter, I don’t believe or live by your book. Neither does she.

                But your book doss say that, you, as a believer, shouldn’t force your beliefs down somebody else’s throat by judging them.

                So kindly, fuck off with this shit and let people live their lives however they want unless it impacts you. Just like I’ll do.l, but I’ll do it because I’m a descent fucking person.

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                  I believe you, but who decides who, and what is a decent person?

                  How can I tell you’re a “decent fucking person” as you say?

                  I’d need to judge you. I’d need some sort of moral code.

                  Wait! I might actually need something like the Bible!

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                    You decide. We all decide.

                    On an individual basis, you can decide if you think an action is ethical or not based on if it, for instance, causes harm, and you dislike causing harm to others.

                    As a society, we broadly come to a consensus on what we consider ethical or not by majority opinion, and turn those into laws. It’s why murder is considered wrong, in both religious and non-religious institutions and societies at large.

                    For example, as a society, we deemed killing other humans to be wrong because then we would be at risk of being killed, and it made it harder for us to survive overall. Those who killed were ostracized, those who didn’t were not. No religion was required to form such a belief, but it can certainly be a part of religious teachings.

                    You can use the Bible as a framework for how you decide what’s moral or not, but it’s not the only way to do so.

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        So do you see that your religion is bullshit? Or do you believe in all of it? Or do you just pick and choose what you want to believe that fits your narrative to make you feel good at night?

        Just curious.

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          Why would my religion be bullshit? Are you atheist?

          I’ve studied the Bible. I think it’s useful, but it doesn’t answer everything.

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            I don’t believe in religion. It’s bullshit. I could go on for weeks pointing out passages that are ignored now (why? it’s gods word right?) What makes your “god” the god? It’s all a scapegoat and really I believe it was just an early form of government. It has NO business in schools or our government and should 100% should be paying taxes.

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              Geez, it’s obviously impossible to live exactly by the book. Of course, passages are going to be ignored.

              I think God is simply a mean to give people’s life meaning and purpose.

              Any group, government, society, organization, family, community, etc. has their own rules and beliefs.

              You’re choosing to believe in something, but clearly not religion. I hope you can still be moral and ethical, though.

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                I don’t need an angry sky guy to threaten me with hell to be moral and ethical. I also don’t need him to give me meaning and purpose. I can do that all on my own. I believe in karma, be a good human.

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                  I love your reply, and I agree with most of it. Mostly the second half.

                  But I think your perceptions of God, Hell and Heaven are quite naive. I don’t believe in tooth fairies and unicorns, either.