• smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de
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    9 months ago

    I cannot believe it’s 2024 and another major company just announce tagging people based on their gender and sexuality to promote/demote certan groups.

    Like if we didn’t get our lessons with race bias already. Remember white-only toilets?

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        9 months ago

        I’m just imagining a white passenger feeling safer with a white driver. Oh boy

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            9 months ago

            What makes it different?

            I doubt any ride service would implement that

            I’d certainly hope so

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                9 months ago

                Sexism could also be considered a mental illness in the same vein?

                Personally I want all of my drivers to be under 6’2" because everyone who has ever dunked on me at basketball has been around that height or taller. /Sarcasm

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                    9 months ago

                    I guess that does make sense as long as you allow men to also choose female only drivers in the same vein. Similar to how hooters is allowed to have a female only waitstaff. I concede it is a valuable space for a peace of mind if you want that option. It is projecting though to want to segregate from entirely a whole class of society, but if that works best for the person I’m supportive.

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                9 months ago

                I’m sure some have legitimate trauma behind their discrimination but I don’t really see how it is different if it is towards their sex or their race in this instance. What is the concrete difference here?

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        9 months ago

        Feeling more safe with your own gender is something understandable. I also absolutely agree that woman are much more in the need of such feature. What I don’t get and hate is targetting something that could be useful to anyone in need and slice it to work only for woman.

        In the city I live there is a clinic that announced free medical help for people with risk or after heart attack. Those are not some support groups, you don’t meet others and the clinic is mostly public funded for all. But they just decided to only offer this to woman, they advertise everywhere about free tests for woman. I asked some people from there and they have no idea why it is done that way, someone propably changed it and everyone accept it as ok.

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            9 months ago

            Okey, would your opinion be the same if instead Lyft would announce Man+, an option for man to drive more frequently with man or non-binary? There are plenty of man who would feel safer having their own space.

            I have no problem and won’t ever rage at choice, but Lyft choices feels like treating woman as a minority:

            • Switch off: man, woman, non-binary, trans, queer, …
            • Switch on: woman, non-binary, trans, queer, …

            Why woman are being put in this group, but man not? It’s not like they too are almost half of the society, aren’t they? Also, how can someone not feel excluded, when there is literally a switch to turn off him because of the gender?

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                9 months ago

                Imagine what if you were talking to actually sexually abused person. He asks why as a man he cannot have such protective feature too and as reponse instead of any empathy from you got dry calculated explanation as if he didn’t know about female being abused, with mixed ad hominem ended by “talk to a woman”.

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      9 months ago

      Im going to say this as nicely as possible, comparing this to white only toilets is not cool… its a little racist. Using poc’s actual historical oppression like a prop to express your distaste for safe spaces for women and nb people is just not a great vibe.

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          9 months ago
          • Why this safery feature is only for woman when it can be for anyone in need?
          • Look, he don’t want woman to be safe, he… [continue with attacks on his “manhood”]

          Really, if I am the problem here, why am I the one not using ad hominem. I have nothing against safety features for woman and I will fight for them. I just want those 10% of sexual abuse victims who are man to feel safe too and stop pretending they don’t exists, that’s all.

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        9 months ago

        I have no distaste for making safe spaces for woman and non-binary. What I have is distaste for deliberately making safe spaces only for woman and non-binary, where there is no cost making it for everyone.

        Lyft could do a switch saying “match my gender”, but they went making basically “match anything other than man” just diffrently phrased. And this is sexists, really disgusting and may look excluding for many.