Got this game on sale for 5 dollah because everyone talks about how vicky 3 is this big communism builder, but I just started the game and I’m so confused.

Like, are petit-bourgeoisie proles in this game that I have to align with? Should I support Agrarian peasants who want monarchich order. I’m playing as Mexico in the ‘Egalitarian’ challenges, succesfully defended Texas from the evil American hordes and my sights set on American states

  • Alaskaball [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    Depends what country you’re in. Nominally speaking, build up productive forces to allow the capitalists to supplant the aristocracy/landlords and continue industrialized while waiting for some flavor of socialist to take leadership of the trade unions, peasants, or intelligentsia then try to help them build popularity while undermining the bourgeoisie then when theres sufficient political power/representation in the government by them ram through council republic and prepare to stomp down a counter-revolution. Usually helps to have a major power in alliance or defensive pact to help weirdly enough. Stomp the reactionaries, continue solidifying the socialists hold on power by pushing as much socialist laws through before whatever socialist leaders you have die forcing you to wait for another radical leader. Usually having the worker coop, farming collective, and universal voting laws help the most in keeping the dictatorship of the proletariat safe from legal counter-revolution from other interest groups.

    If all that sounds a bit too hard still, just play France until the Commune happens and side with the commune in its event while holding a Marxist-Leninist perspective on seizing power.

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      What’s your take on the Armed forces?

      I understand the building up of productive forces but I’m at the stage where I need to build up the military to ward of the baying American hounds as I also look to crush them in the future. And at the moment, because of this my government is comprised of right wing igs. But I don’t want the war pigs to have too much power to stage coups and not sure if they’re at odds with the industrialists and capitalists

      Stomp the reactionaries

      But which ones, all the igs seem reactionary

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        What’s your take on the Armed forces

        Only useful for pushing for a professional military to undercut the landed gentry’s power. If you’re doing a colonialism they’re also useful for pushing that.

        I understand the building up of productive forces but I’m at the stage where I need to build up the military to ward of the baying American hounds as I also look to crush them in the future.

        Playing Mexico I bet. At minimum you need enough armament buildings and battalions to keep your soldiers and conscripts equipped well enough to fight off major powers to a white peace. After that it’s all about building productive forces.

        And at the moment, because of this my government is comprised of right wing igs.

        That’s fairly standard for most of a run in a non-industrialized power. Now that I think of it it also helps increasing your peoples literacy rates. There’s like a decree that let’s you do that. So if you aren’t in need of money or are trying to boost infrastructure building/quell turmoil At the moment most of the time you want your most populated or industrialized provides to be under that literacy decree while working on getting some kind of education system going.

        But I don’t want the war pigs to have too much power to stage coups and not sure if they’re at odds with the industrialists and capitalists

        Purely depends on who the leader is, whats their ideology, whether or not you’re stepping on their toes too much with whatever reform you’re pushing, etc. Like if you got a royalist leader of the Army, its obvious they’re going to get super pissed off if you try and institute a republican system or enfranchise more voters but a moderate or whatever other kind of leader won’t really give a shut. Try paying attention to the dynamics of power and interests between the factions and when they do or don’t coincide in movements.

        But which ones, all the igs seem reactionary

        Pick and chose your battles over the decades. Undercut the theocrats when the gentry don’t really give a shit about religious rights, undercut the gentry when the theocrats are more worried about religious rights over secular rights. Utilize the divided interests of the petty bourgeois and the bourgeois that run contrary to the gentry and church to push for more modernization but be wary of when all four interests coincide. So on and so forth.

        You’re most likely playing a economically-sociologicslly backwards nation that’s transitioning from feudal relations to capitalist to socialist. You have to work progressive measures in one step at a time with the understanding that up until a certain point of development, capitalism is a progressive force in relation to the transformation of the ownership of the means of production and control over the State.

        I mean maybe once in a blue moon you could get lucky with the dicerolls and get like an anarchist peasant leader with the homesteading law in place making what’d commonly among the largest factions suddenly be radicalized over night while being in a military alliance with a major power letting you just ratfuck your way to communism while letting the imperialists fight in your own civil war against the reactionaries then spend the rest of the game shooting your GDP to the moon and roflstomping all of the world powers in wars of containment boy that China run was wiiiild

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          Thanks! Yup, playing with Mexico right now.

          I kind of want to do a colonialism ngl, against the USA of course. I want to force them to grant independence to the the native american territories and abolish slavery. They won’t accept pf course, so north American domination is needed. Dunno what’s going on up in Klanada in 1842 rn but that ass is mine should it still be a British commonwealth once I deal with the burgers