Australia is facist now?
Fuck guess I missed it, was outside all day too.
Greenland too? :(
Does Denmark know?
Someone should warn them
Eh, we find that out next year if the cookers are stupid enough to vote Dutto in.
Oh, they are.
It’s not just the cookers. It’s also the media illiterate and unengaged. I’m constantly shocked at how insular our population is. It feels like a ticking time bomb.
You guys are seriously arguing for a ministry of truth.
Like only the West has gone Fascist…
The map is misleading. The other “non-West” countries are leading the pack. We humans, from space, must look like starlings.
Yeah, Greenland
Even Greenland, wtf?
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Hear, hear. Let’s commit to fighting fascism as enthusiastically as Putin!
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Huh?
Blue parts should be more like white parts in this image.
Haha when i say edgy think dopmanie squirt in brain hehe
I don’t think any government should try to be like Argentina…
Maybe not argentina. But blue parts could be more like myanmar, congo, china, iran, …
Lmao either this is ragebait, or top notch satire.
Well, top notch for what I’ve seen today, anyway…
Canada’s not fascist yet. We’re electing our own Vance in a few months, so save your sympathy for us then.
Apparently the Corporation has been able to convince people - as they’ve tried from the start - that Hair Guy is somehow worse than them. They haven’t actually put forth a platform with any numbers or promises on it, but “hair guy bad” has finally found an audience so dumb to swallow it.
Ah yes. The west. Famously known for being the most authoritarian of geopolitical regions.
In the memes defense you can’t be moving towards authoritarianism if you’re already there.
I mean…yes. But more often through colonial enterprises.
They said fascist, you can be authoritarian without being fascist.
How do you know Shrek isn’t portraying someone in the west asking the rest of the west to stop turning fascist?
If you want to play the fascism isn’t authoritarianism card then name a single state indicated in the meme that has taken up fascism as official policy.
Fascism is most definitely authoritarian.
Poo by any other name is still poo. Fascist principles can be seen to be taking root in many western countries. Do they label themselves fascist … well southern and eastern Europe seem to be starting to openly do that.
Regardless, both Italy and Spain seem to be highlighted in the meme soo … there’s two?
Both democracies btw
Both have taken up fascism as official policy in the past.
I wouldn’t say they’ve adopted a fascistic internal political system. Like they still have elections and aren’t led by a dictator. You can only be so ethno-nationalistic while remaining in the EU lol.
Yeah Giorgia Meloni and the Fratelli d’Italia sound pretty ethno-nationalistic to me …
Among the ones not going fascist north Korea, Russia, Eritrea, China, Syria, Iran…
Among the ones going fascist New Zealand, Canada, Switzerland, Ireland, Denmark……
Among the ones not going fascist north Korea, Russia, Eritrea, China, Syria, Iran…
They’re not going, because they’re already there.
Just more anti-western propaganda, welcome to Lemmy.
Wow look at the brain on this guy
Real big thinker here
You’re correct, it’s innaccurate to not portray the entire world as descending into fascism, as has always been predicted on any path that embraces capitalism.
technically , you are not going anywhere once you arrived at the destination
That depends on how big your destination is. You haven’t experienced all of Disney just because you drive in the front gate.
There’s tons more fascism to experience.
Mexican here. Last month, a reporter known for being critical of the government was fired live in the middle of his segment. We’re definitely going fascist.
Do you know of any English coverage? That’s very interesting
Here. I’m afraid there isn’t much that’s interesting about it other than the fact that it happened in the first place — I only singled it out because it’s quite recent. If you want something interesting, though, how about the time our president straight up doxed a New York Times reporter on live TV?
Yeah, this is a strangely euro-centric viewing. It needs to include so many more places. Russia is a big one that’s missing, for another example, and there are a ton more. We’re in bad economic times, which is where Fascists thrive. On the good side, leftists can also take advantage of it to actually help people if they succeed.
We’re only in bad economic time because the wealthy elites and corporation gobbled up everything away from the public, which makes it even more sad.
Yes, but it’s bad for everyone but them. The reason doesn’t really matter. It’s the same as always. It’s mostly the same conditions that led to the last rise in fascism.
No, the reason absolutely does matter. If we were all suffering because of a global drought, that would be entirely different than all of us starving and going homeless at the peak of human production.
Sure, but the reason is always the same. It’s rich people taking everything. There’s way more than enough food and water for everyone, and that’ll be true for a very long time.
If the reason was always the same, I would be in agreement. The reasons matter.
The reason matters in that it affects how we solve the problems, but in terms of how fascism gets it’s foot in… it doesn’t really.
Thanks to putin and his psyops war
Its certainly a key part of it
We just wanna be like everyone else, is that so wrong?
“Going”
Please remove Quebec from that map, we’re definitely not going fascists!
I’m not sure I call banning hijabs in all public service roles in the name of “secularism” isn’t a great start…
I wish your neighbours were smarter ;(
Me too…
Why would they remove Quebec? Quebec doesn’t matter here much more than the Bay Area, Catalonia, Sami land or Ulster.
The way you handled protesting truckers was definitely fascist
Ah yes, the truckers protesting any vaccination mesures during a pandemic, harrassing passers-by for wearing COVID masks, and calling for the dissolution of the government 4 months after the current government was re-elected are the TRUE victims of fascism.
Yah, la pur laine are known for their tolerance
People are collectively losing their minds if their think any western country is anywhere near fascism. Have you lived in Russia or North Korea?
Western nations are losing the psyops war, which is what you see in a lot of countries.
The main problem is that our representatives and elected officials are just as likely to believe emotional propaganda as any regular person.
This is why we need better public education, so the general population has better critical thinking.
Without reference to other nations and countries, what elements of fascism do you believe are missing that makes the label inaccurate or inappropriate
I think the main difference is that people who hold different political opinions are not randomly falling out of windows
The other difference is that you can have protests and still get what you want. Or you can vote and still have the change you voted for count.
If voting didn’t matter at all in the US or other democracies, psyop campaigns wouldn’t be targeting the citizens, but only the leaders or officials, elected or otherwise
When you say “randomly falling out windows,” I think you mean that the state is not assassinating its own citizens to protect the electability of the (small-F) fascist ruling party. That’s a pretty specific line to draw. I’m not sure if that’s what you mean because you continue to cloak your meaning in euphemism and irony.
You say that there are still elections where votes are counted fairly, and that public speech is still permitted. I would suggest that is not the minimum requirement for a fair election or political empowerment. It’s interesting that you suppose that psyops exist and are effective against voters, but that there are still free elections where people are able to enact the changes they have presumably been induced to want.
It sounds very much like you are saying, “yes, while it resembles fascism in every way, real fascism would be the same thing but worse.” You can appreciate I am sure that other people have other standards, and that yours are not really universally accepted. John Kelly gave a very good off-the-cuff definition recently. Rather than presenting my own, I invite you to refute his.
We’ve normalized mass surveillance. Local police have full, warrantless access to your travel habits from licence plate cameras. I can buy all of the data on you and find your political ideology. People are prosecuted for their political beliefs and actions every day.
Even if you, a private citizen, buys someone data to intimidate them, it just amounts to stalking and harassment. That’s not fascism.
If you’re saying that the government is outsourcing stalking and harassment of private citizens via these means, then that’s an interesting take. Personally, I think a government body may not necessarily have anything to do with such a thing, but private entities with resources could do it. Like some crazed hedge fund dude targeting anti-genocide protesters. These private entities may even get government contracts, so who knows.
In U.S. history civil rights activists were straight up assassinated, and so were U.S. presidents who got too uppity as far as someone else was concerned. Environmental or social justice activists were always targeted or tracked by govt. agencies. The regular person who holds spicy political takes on any ideology isn’t a concern unless they’re in the news or getting attention.
I am not naive about the state of things, but I also don’t think they’re any worse than they’ve been before in terms of govt control over activism. The main problem now is psyops at scale. Countries like China and Russia safeguard themselves from it by having a homogenous culture, which is antithetical to democracies.
Tbh it’s not mass surveillance that adds chilling effects to activist action, but the constant seizing of power and resources by oligarchs. I think in this instance people who want change should become a part of the system, ie the government or its agencies.
If we fool ourselves into thinking the U.S. or any other western state is as bad as current fascists regimes, we’ve lost the psyops war. Can things be better, yes. There’s no way to get that without organizing for change, and creating strong local communities.
I’m pretty sure moving into a administration who plans on mass deportations requiring holding camps, literal work camps for the mentally ill, and the degradation of regulations/rights are all clear signs we are moving in that direction.
I mean come on man, Trump couldn’t have his first pick for AG be approved because he said “We will drag the bodies of our political opponents through the streets” he said that, and that was Trump’s first choice for the most powerful prosecutor in the country.
When the fascists show us who they are WE SHOULD BELIEVE THEM!
