It sounds to me like a professional hit. The guy used a silencer and when his gun jammed he cleared the jam and got off a couple more shots. I’d be willing to bet $1 that this is a rich investor on rich CEO hit because the guy sold his stocks without disclosing to investors that the company was under investigation for massive fraud causing the investors to lose massive amounts of money when the story broke in the press.
Law enforcement officials told NBC News they found the words “deny,” “defend” and “depose,” written on the shell casings found at the shooting scene. Those words seem to echo the title of a 2010 book, “Delay Deny Defend,” whose subtitle is, “Why insurance companies don’t pay claims and what you can do about it.”
Sounds personal.
And what kind of a pro assassin goes to Starbucks before doing the hit and then rides off into the sunset on an ebike?
I don’t think it’s particularly interesting either way. Rich guy on rich guy is boring. It doesn’t mean anything. Disgruntled poor guy on rich guy is boring. It’s just a vendetta. Now, activist on evil CEO as the beginning of final chapter of end stage capitalism, that’s interesting.
It sounds to me like a professional hit. The guy used a silencer and when his gun jammed he cleared the jam and got off a couple more shots
I’m no gun expert, but this doesn’t sound special or advanced. Just seems like basic research and planning after checking how previous assassinations have failed. From what I’ve seen there are plenty of suggestions it was amateur but reasonably-well planned.
I’ve heard that the silencer may have had an impact on the bolt returning properly. If so he may have been aware of this already as he very quickly dealt with the stoppage.
it could be the combination of the two. suppressors commonly induce failures to eject in tilting barrel designs without the use of a nielson device, and if he had used subsonics, that would also be a contributing factor to a failure to eject.
The thing that makes this potentially professional isn’t the gun use but the intel needed to find this guy at the right place and time. The killer either had inside info or had been surveilling him for a while.
Serious tinfoil but this theory is about as valid as the current narrative.
We just don’t know why this happened, we just know that it it did.
What we are getting from media is dead exec and bullets with words… everything else is just online discourse making up theories or cheering dead exec.
No that i can’t about either (i don’t cry over bad things happening tot bad people when country is full of decent people getting fucked over) but story is developing. People can hate this PoS and he could have been killed by some oligarch.
Disagree. This is someone with some training who lost a family member to the denial of healthcare. Losing money doesn’t produce murderous rage. Losing family does.
The LOL part is that narrows down the suspect list to millions
That’s a possibility but it’s not a very interesting story. I like the idea of an anti-capitalist activist performing the first act of the end of late stage capitalism.
The guy used a silencer and when his gun jammed he cleared the jam and got off a couple more shots.
that’s something you could do with about five minutes of training. if he was a “professional”, he probably would’ve used a nielson device, or, if he just had some shitty turkish oil filter, a non-tilting barrel design, like a hi-point, so the suppressor doesn’t induce malfunctions. he also probably would’ve waited a little bit further down the guy’s path. he pulled off his hit in broad view of a camera which was directly behind him, and he stopped for starbucks and a couple protein bars down the street, and left his garbage on site. none of these things matter too much since the police are pretty bad at their job, but if the feds get involved, things might take a different turn, and little mistakes like those add up. if his gun had jammed more severely, he might not have been successful at all. no, this speaks to me as a kind of amateur endeavor.
now, it’s still somewhat unlikely, but it is, I suppose, possible, that he was still hired. actual hitmen would probably tend to be so professional that you will basically never see them, like the guy that probably killed the boeing whistleblower, or part of some obviously state sanctioned special forces unit. They can also be unprofessional schmucks that are willing to just eat the sentence for an organized crime syndicate, and in less high profile cases, they can just be random people down on their luck who are willing to kill for a couple thousand dollars and know someone who’s willing to pay that fee, which never really works out too well.
I think that many American gravy seals grossly overestimate what a regular person can do with “five minutes of training” during an actual shooting situating. Look at Uvalde. Did those hundreds of cops who choked and let those children be murdered have “five minutes of training”? Murder fantasies are one thing but actually being in the street with a gun in your hand shooting someone and trying to get away without some other asshole with murder fantasies pulling out a gun and blasting away with no consideration for any innocent unintentional backstop is a whole different ball of wax. Look at those traitorous asshole in the speakers lobby. They planned to murder Mike Pence and other Members if Congress right up until a bullet ripped through Ashli Babbitt’s chest and they realized, “Holy shit, they’re shooting white people out here.” My shooting buddy who did three tours of duty as an infantryman in Norther Ireland during the troubles, two as a combat medic in Bosnia, and many years as a street cop says of weekend warriors in ill-fitting, mismatched, surplus store body armor with consumer grade military lookalike guns and collective murder fantasies, “It all changes when you’re on a two way range.”
Your analysis was funny, though. Thanks for the morning laugh.
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little removed? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
It sounds to me like a professional hit. The guy used a silencer and when his gun jammed he cleared the jam and got off a couple more shots. I’d be willing to bet $1 that this is a rich investor on rich CEO hit because the guy sold his stocks without disclosing to investors that the company was under investigation for massive fraud causing the investors to lose massive amounts of money when the story broke in the press.
Sounds personal.
And what kind of a pro assassin goes to Starbucks before doing the hit and then rides off into the sunset on an ebike?
I don’t think it’s particularly interesting either way. Rich guy on rich guy is boring. It doesn’t mean anything. Disgruntled poor guy on rich guy is boring. It’s just a vendetta. Now, activist on evil CEO as the beginning of final chapter of end stage capitalism, that’s interesting.
They rode off on an e-bike? That’s hilarious.
when agent 47 need to do the optional objective to get the bonus
I’m no gun expert, but this doesn’t sound special or advanced. Just seems like basic research and planning after checking how previous assassinations have failed. From what I’ve seen there are plenty of suggestions it was amateur but reasonably-well planned.
I’ve heard that the silencer may have had an impact on the bolt returning properly. If so he may have been aware of this already as he very quickly dealt with the stoppage.
He practised, is what I’m suggesting.
Probably not the silencer but the use of subsonic ammo.
it could be the combination of the two. suppressors commonly induce failures to eject in tilting barrel designs without the use of a nielson device, and if he had used subsonics, that would also be a contributing factor to a failure to eject.
The thing that makes this potentially professional isn’t the gun use but the intel needed to find this guy at the right place and time. The killer either had inside info or had been surveilling him for a while.
Except that after the drop when the investigation was made public, it’s doing better than it was just prior to the announcement.
So unless an investor decided to sell at its lowest point, which is unlikely, they’ve actually made money since that news came out
Maybe that’s the play.
Serious tinfoil but this theory is about as valid as the current narrative.
We just don’t know why this happened, we just know that it it did.
What we are getting from media is dead exec and bullets with words… everything else is just online discourse making up theories or cheering dead exec.
No that i can’t about either (i don’t cry over bad things happening tot bad people when country is full of decent people getting fucked over) but story is developing. People can hate this PoS and he could have been killed by some oligarch.
Disagree. This is someone with some training who lost a family member to the denial of healthcare. Losing money doesn’t produce murderous rage. Losing family does.
The LOL part is that narrows down the suspect list to millions
That’s a possibility but it’s not a very interesting story. I like the idea of an anti-capitalist activist performing the first act of the end of late stage capitalism.
Why not both
There is that.
Losing money absolutely does provoke murderous rage, in some people. That’s how we wound up living in a reality with billionaires to begin with.
If they’re an investor they already have money. Why ruin a good life? This was the act of someone with nothing to lose.
A professional would have a lighter return spring in the slide to not jam on subsonics. In fact, an amateur with half a brain would have as well.
that’s something you could do with about five minutes of training. if he was a “professional”, he probably would’ve used a nielson device, or, if he just had some shitty turkish oil filter, a non-tilting barrel design, like a hi-point, so the suppressor doesn’t induce malfunctions. he also probably would’ve waited a little bit further down the guy’s path. he pulled off his hit in broad view of a camera which was directly behind him, and he stopped for starbucks and a couple protein bars down the street, and left his garbage on site. none of these things matter too much since the police are pretty bad at their job, but if the feds get involved, things might take a different turn, and little mistakes like those add up. if his gun had jammed more severely, he might not have been successful at all. no, this speaks to me as a kind of amateur endeavor.
now, it’s still somewhat unlikely, but it is, I suppose, possible, that he was still hired. actual hitmen would probably tend to be so professional that you will basically never see them, like the guy that probably killed the boeing whistleblower, or part of some obviously state sanctioned special forces unit. They can also be unprofessional schmucks that are willing to just eat the sentence for an organized crime syndicate, and in less high profile cases, they can just be random people down on their luck who are willing to kill for a couple thousand dollars and know someone who’s willing to pay that fee, which never really works out too well.
I think that many American gravy seals grossly overestimate what a regular person can do with “five minutes of training” during an actual shooting situating. Look at Uvalde. Did those hundreds of cops who choked and let those children be murdered have “five minutes of training”? Murder fantasies are one thing but actually being in the street with a gun in your hand shooting someone and trying to get away without some other asshole with murder fantasies pulling out a gun and blasting away with no consideration for any innocent unintentional backstop is a whole different ball of wax. Look at those traitorous asshole in the speakers lobby. They planned to murder Mike Pence and other Members if Congress right up until a bullet ripped through Ashli Babbitt’s chest and they realized, “Holy shit, they’re shooting white people out here.” My shooting buddy who did three tours of duty as an infantryman in Norther Ireland during the troubles, two as a combat medic in Bosnia, and many years as a street cop says of weekend warriors in ill-fitting, mismatched, surplus store body armor with consumer grade military lookalike guns and collective murder fantasies, “It all changes when you’re on a two way range.”
Your analysis was funny, though. Thanks for the morning laugh.
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little removed? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
Cool story, bro.
In case you’re unaware, it’s the Navy Seals copypasta.
I was unaware but didn’t care. I assumed that OC was joking.