The Ukrainian president also claimed that 198,000 Russian soldiers had been killed and 550,000 wounded.

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/22907187

Summary

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky revealed that 43,000 Ukrainian soldiers have died and 370,000 have been injured since Russia’s invasion began, marking a rare admission of the conflict’s toll.

He also claimed 198,000 Russian soldiers have been killed, though casualty figures from both sides remain unverified.

The update comes amid heightened fighting, with Russia suffering record monthly casualties in November.

Talks with French President Macron and U.S. Trump focused on a potential peace deal, with Zelensky emphasizing the need for international guarantees to secure lasting peace against Russian aggression.

  • zante@slrpnk.netEnglish
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    18 days ago

    It would be easier for you if it was so clear cut, but it isn’t .

    You won’t have heard of the Donbas People’s Militias or the Donetsk People’s Republic, because it easier to think of it in terms of goodies and baddies .

    There has been extensive collaboration with Russia, including far right Ukrainian “nazis”

    But this muddies the water and no like like to think about it much.

    • NOT_RICK@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      18 days ago

      You won’t have heard of the Donbas People’s Militias or the Donetsk People’s Republic, because it easier to think of it in terms of goodies and baddies .

      We’ve heard of them. Funny how these “militias” ended up with advanced weapon systems like the Buk they used to shoot down a commercial airliner nearly immediately after Russia illegally annexed Crimea. Both Donetsk and Luhansk voted overwhelmingly in favor of Ukrainian independence in 1991.

      • zante@slrpnk.netEnglish
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        18 days ago

        Who’s “we” ? Are you speaking for the person I replied to ? Because Im not sure they’d be happy with the nonsense you are spouting .

        If by “funny” you are implying they were surreptitiously armed by Russia, well, they are collaborators - of course Russia armed them. It’s where collaborators traditionally get their kit .

        Equally obviously, the vote you’ve referred to firstly isn’t particularly relevant 20 years later and certainly doesn’t mean collaborators don’t exist, which is the point being made .

        The comment I replied to implied that there were no “nazis” because they are led by a jew. I’m pointing out that there were thousands of far right Ukrainians that collaborated with Russia - shaking the conflict as multidimensional.

        • TheDoozer@lemmy.world
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          18 days ago

          There have been thousands of far-right Americans who have, in some manner or another, been collaborating with Russia. It doesn’t make it reasonable or appropriate for Russia to invade the US, another sovereign nation (like Ukraine).

    • FlowVoid@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      18 days ago

      It is absolutely clear cut.

      Ukraine is a sovereign country. Russia violated its sovereignty.