From this article: https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/car-reliability-owner-satisfaction/who-makes-the-most-reliable-cars-a7824554938/
Related to this post: https://lemmy.ca/post/34496572
“based on CR member surveys” so its what people think is most reliable. Not what is actually most reliable.
Right? It’s not like it’s unknowable how reliable a car is? I want to see the metrics I get for all other stuff on the planet. Uptime. Unscheduled maintenance dollars per year/kilometer. I know all companies that operate fleets have these numbers!
Read again. This is an aggregation of specific model-level data on actual maintenance events.
… So basically owning a Subaru makes you happier. That’s what I thought.
Owning a Subaru makes you smug.
Not all surveys are opinion surveys like political ones are. It’s just a method of data collection.
We calculate predicted reliability ratings for almost every new car, truck, and SUV on the market using data from Consumer Reports’ annual reliability surveys, which ask members about problems they’ve had with their vehicles
This year we calculated brand-level score by first examining the weighted overall problem rate for all models within a brand for each model year. Then the brand reliability score was calculated by averaging models from 2022 to 2024, and some early 2025 data for each brand, where there was sufficient sample size. We had insufficient data to create brand rankings for Alfa Romeo, Chrysler, Dodge, Fiat, Infiniti, Jaguar, Land Rover, Lincoln, Lucid, Maserati, Mercedes-Benz, Mini, Mitsubishi, Polestar, Porsche, and Ram.
Good point but still questionable methodology.
This basically defines most reliable as “least issues in first 3 years”. Also why would you collect them as a survey of your members and not try to get a broader statistic.
What broader statistic? The next step up would be cold calls and that comes with all kinds of issues of it’s own.
There should be statistics how many cars are sold and then you could collect data from repairshops instead of users from a website. Even if a user has 3 cars, asking 1 repairshop will give you data for 100’s of cars. Its just odd to do a survey on the users of your website because thats probably a small and skewed sample size.
Edit: “We had insufficient data to create brand rankings for Alfa Romeo, Chrysler, Dodge, Fiat, Infiniti, Jaguar, Land Rover, Lincoln, Lucid, Maserati, Mercedes-Benz, Mini, Mitsubishi, Polestar, Porsche, and Ram.” Gives you a hint on how sufficient their data is in total.
I suppose, but they’re not necessarily going to hand over data just because you asked. Maybe it’s not the best possible choice, but it doesn’t seem odd to me at all.
Well maybe Odd is the wrong word, too small and biased?
Subaru is surprising to me.
It surprises me that Ford is as high up as it is. Considering the recall situation. I feel like they should be down there with Tesla and the only reason they aren’t is because Ford had such a head start in the automotive industry so they sell more vehicles.
How are any electric car makers so unreliable. They’re so mechanically simple.
How the hell do you fuck up so badly that you’re the bottom of the list Rivian??
“Since EV technology is still relatively new, automakers continue to work the bugs out of their powertrains and platforms,” Elek says. “But we also see issues with their non-EV components, such as the latest infotainment and electronic features.”
Electric cars are actually very complex. They monitor a ton of sensors and electrical properties constantly and need to manage everything.
It isn’t just a big motor and a big battery hooked up to a variable resistance switch at the accelerator.
I mean, they’re still a lot simpler than combustion cars. Like the other guy said, it’s probably because they’re startups.
Are Rivian’s really that bad? I’ve always heard good things about them, especially compared to Tesla.
They are not. Ask Rivian owners and they’ll tell you they love them and they’re very reliable.
I have three friends with Rivians, two truck models and an SUV model, and they swear by them. The biggest issue is if you need to service them, their shops are difficult to get to, and getting parts can take months. They have not fabbed up enough replacement components yet. Other than that, they’re stellar.
