• john89@lemmy.caOPM
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    7 days ago

    He probably would have won. I feel most of the backlash because of the debate was a manufactured snowball effect.

    It’s so easy for right-wingers to say, “I was going to vote for Biden, but not after that debate!” when they were going to vote for Trump all along.

    I unfortunately don’t think most left-wingers are autonomous enough to recognize this kind of behavior.

    Pivoting to Kamala Harris of all people was perhaps the worst decision they could’ve made, and shows how out of touch the democratic establishment is with the working class.

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      7 days ago

      Pivoting to Harris was the second worst decision they could have made. Sticking with Biden would have been the worst. His own polls showed him losing by even more than Harris did. You’re dreaming.

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      6 days ago

      Polls showed Biden was well behind Trump. Harris closed the gap and still lost. It is delusional to think a diminished figure like Biden could have closed the gap.

      The reality is Biden was not fit for office and should haves stepped down as candidate in 2023 so the party could run an actual primary and fresh campaign.

      Instead the ego and hubris of one old man and his hangers on has gifted the election to trump.

      It’s worth noting 1/3 of thee electorate didn’t vote and that in the end 150,000 votes would have swung the electoral college. The fight was to win over just some of that 1/3 and get them to vote - it is not about republicans and never has been.

        • theonlytruescotsman@sh.itjust.works
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          6 days ago

          I voted for stein since there wasn’t a centrist or left wing option available among the two main parties, and PSL wasn’t on my states ballot.

          If they put up a candidate that acknowledged a tiny bit of Biden’s failures and deeply unpopular policies, id have voted for them.