My social media environment (mostly Lemmy for the last year, after I left Reddit) is very leftist. I’m finding myself floating more and more left because y’all have a point and there’s not many counter-arguments in this social media environment. I sometimes wonder if that’s how MAGA folks feel–floating more and more right because that’s what they’re surrounded by.

Of course, my floating is (naturally /s) based on reason and leftists making good memes/arguments.

Anyways, that’s this morning’s introspection.

Side showerthought: my convictions are based on memes. Anyone have nice, accessible resources for giving those convictions a more solid base? I’d love something like a graphic history of leftist thought (similar to Queer: A Graphic History). Something approachable but with citations. Thanks :)

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    Don’t swing too far in either direction. Doing that is what creates radicals

    My advice is to get news and info from all sides. If you’re able to identify what the dramatics are and are able to exclude them from news you absorb, then that’s where the real truth is

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      When you are no longer willing to listen to those who disagree with what you hold as truth, you have not found truth, you have stopped looking for it.

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        I don’t really need to listen to people that think there are microchips in the vaccines, for example. Lots of ideas aren’t worth considering. There’s nothing noble about having no standards.

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          There is a difference between believing someone is saying nonsense and plugging your ears when they say anything. If someone talks about microchips in the vaccines and certain entertainment producers are pedophiles, you know the vaccines don’t have microchips in them because of technological limitations but you can’t prove that producers aren’t pedophiles.

          The boy who cried wolf was right the one time when nobody listened.

          Snowden exposed what conspiracy theorists were lambasted for believing because the truth was masked by nonsense.

          If I told you that the US government was force sterilizing Native American women for decades, I may sound unhinged until you gave it enough consideration to find out what the reality was in the 60s and 70s.

          If I told you the US government was giving unknowing black men STDs, you may not believe me until you looked into Tuskegee.

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            If I told you [documented facts]

            Those things are true, but I wouldn’t go so far as to say because some claims are true that any and all claims have merit.

            Also, you should reread the boy who cried wolf. The point isn’t that the wolf is real, the point is people won’t put up with bullshit.

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            That’s not how proof works. it’s not up to you to disprove every claim someone makes or else accept it as true, it’s up to them to prove their claims.

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      That’s a false dichotomy. Centrism isn’t inherently noble, either.

      When the far right starts questioning arithmetic the way they question climate change will it be noble to doubt 2+2 = 4?

      You need to think for yourself rather than expecting the correct answer to be some average of the prevailing ideas.

      “How about just a little genocide”

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      I think there’s some good advice here, noticing news is always pushing some sort of propaganda is useful as is being able to discern what is propaganda and what is truth between the lines.

      But I think there’s sometimes a notion that a centrist point of view is inherently more balanced and correct and that is a dangerous way of thinking. It’s not unthinkable that political leanings in one direction or another are better for a society and in thinking the center must be better, there can be a push to accept the horrors one side or another is pushing for.

      As the US lurches further and further towards fascism, so does the center.

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        The left has their own fascist tendencies that are just as bad as the right. At different times different sides are in power and implement their version which their side supports because it is their side. You have to be willing to be critical of your own side. Make it a point to vote for someone not your sides candidate every election just because choosing that other person is a good exercise. (In my case I’ve just decided nobody gets more than two terms in office). Note that I didn’t say other side, there are always “fringe” parties on your side that you can vote for. the important part is you look for reasons why your own side is evil and take action to prevent it even if that means the opposite side gets power and does things you don’t like.

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            By America do you mean the US, or do you include both continents. Juan Perón comes to mind as a left wing authoritarian, but that is Argentina (and he died in 1974)

            Either way, the important part is to not get so arrogant that you support it on your side. There are people who agree with your who are authoritarians and it is easy to fall into the trap of supporting them as plenty of authoritarians over history have proved. (you should have been there killing Caesar and then demanding the return of the republic)

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            I don’t know of elected officials, however, on lemmy, there are a lot of authoritarian left wing groups. There are a lot of anti-authoritarian ones too, but the authoritarians are very loud, and abrasive, because authoritarians operate via force.

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              Maybe it’s my own biases and US centric mentality, but I really struggle to put bossy power mods on a forum on the same level as the Neo Nazi adjacent policymakers in the government.

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                neither do I, there really isn’t a real left in the US. However the online influence pipeline for the left has a lot of authoritarians, which is similar to the problem the right fash pipeline creates. Whether or not there will be a true left in office with population enough to truly do something, and not just beef up liberal voting, we shall see.

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      You didn’t declare absolute fealty to the ideology, news sources, and goals of the left. Nor did you even spew caustic hate at any other ideologies.

      Therefore you are bad.

      Downvoted.