• CableMonster@lemmy.ml
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    9 months ago

    I dont think you understand what could happen, what happens if tens of millions of people say the federal government is no longer legitamate, and they refuse to follow its rules and laws?

    About jan 6th people, did they deserve years in prison for going into a building and not doing any violent acts?

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      8 months ago

      I’m still not afraid of maga people.

      Tens of millions? How many people do you suppose have sent Trump $1 or more? It’s about 500K. The rest might vote for him, but they don’t even want to buy a red hat.

      And I’m supposed to believe that there exist 9.5 million people who don’t want to send Trump a single dollar - despite his multiple requests - but are willing risk their lives for him?

      The Jan 6 rioters deserve prison if that’s in the federal sentencing guidelines for their crimes. Rules are rules. Not everyone in prison is there for violent crime.

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        8 months ago

        I feel like you are not aware of how long of sentences people are getting for tresspassing. For example the shaman I think got 42 months for entering a building and acting like an idiot.

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          8 months ago

          Trespassing might have been the charge if Congress weren’t in session. It was.

          He pled guilty to obstruction of a federal proceeding, under 18 USC 1512.

          Max sentence is 20 years. So 41 months seems about right. Now that’s an example of “finding out”.

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            8 months ago

            He pled guilty because he was going to get stream rolled. So you think its fair to get 41 months in prison for trespassing?

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              8 months ago

              Trespassing is when you break into an empty federal building. What he did went way beyond trespassing. Like I said, the charge was obstruction of a federal proceeding and 41 months seems about right.

              When government officials can’t do their job because of you, things get very serious very fast and feds don’t play around. Just ask Martha Stewart, formerly inmate #55170-054, who made the mistake of sending feds on a wild goose chase.

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                8 months ago

                The obstructing federal proceedings is just a bullshit charge they use to make it sound worse. My biggest issue on these riot charges is how you guys yell about how bad it was but then ignore the george floyd riots. You guys only care about jan 6th because it is an example of why you dont mess with the federal governemnt in dc.

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                  8 months ago

                  as someone excited to see police precincts burn, I have to reluctantly agree a bit. riots are fair play as far as I’m concerned, and having the libs criminalize this shit feels like another knife in the back.

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                    8 months ago

                    Its just uneven justice. People will on one hand complain about how many people are in prison, and then cheer a multi year sentence for breaking a window at the special people place of work.

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                  8 months ago

                  Plenty of people went to jail after the George Floyd riots. Unlike right-wingers, I’m not obsessed by setting criminals free.

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                    8 months ago

                    How many people went to prison for George floyd riots vs jan 6th? For jan 6ht I think its 500 or so have gotten prison sentences, and George floyd they didnt do much convictions. Shouldnt they be targeting a lot more for the group that did an actual insurrection in CHAZ?