Eu membership entails that we defend each other! Its just never was called for bef
But Russia really broke its fangs into Ukraine, the big strong russian warmachine can’t deal with lil poor Ukraine… So its not like our mutual def pack will be called now!
EU will NOT do what it takes. Germany’s ruling oligarch clan wants Russian gas back on, everyone else can get fucked.
Ukraine needs nuclear weapons to defend itself properly.
I hope they already started the assembly. Ukraine tried to play by the rules and look where it go it. Geopolitics at the end of the day who has the guns and will to use them.
Like this? Like switching domestic heating over to heat pumps? Germany isn’t planning on using any fossil gas in the future, the stuff that will be left (because it cannot be avoided, e.g. as chemical feedstock, or to reduce iron ore) will be green hydrogen.
Also I’m sorry you don’t like Gepards, or Leopards. Or Lynxes. Big cats in general.
You haven’t been following the innumerable articles about German industries wringing their hands and moaning about the good old days of cheap energy. They might be cajoling the general public, but the corporations are suffering and having trouble adapting. Everything was designed around cheap Russian gas. And they’ve thrown all of their nuclear infrastructure away because of their rabid ecologist party (which has in part contaminated their French neighbours).
Nuclear is no replacement for the critical uses of gas, noone wants to build it anyway because it’s expensive AF, and yes of course companies are moaning. They always are.
A full 1/3rd of German gas use is domestic heating which is getting replaced by heat pumps now, up to 70% of the replacement costs get covered by the state. Because, apparently, Germany wants to stick with Russian gas? Meanwhile, French industry uses ballpark the same amount of gas as the German industry. Yet noone is talking about the French industry controlling the French state, making them bow to Russians.
The fuck are you people talking about. What parallel dimension are you living in.
As Europe overall is weaning itself off natural gas (Germany leads, but others will follow once the economics of scale are there) Norway will in all likelihood be the only supplier for a while.
Israel is committing a genocide in Gaza with direct support from Germany
Ukraine is losing the war to Russian in part because Germany’s support has been spotty at best.
US maintains 40k troops within Germany to defend it against Russia when Germany can barely slap two operational brigades for deployment while spending similar tomoney to France who actually maintains a proper defense posture. Who is stealing all this defense money?
The topic you started was Germany allegedly being an oligarchy, moreso, that those oligarchs would form a singular clan. And I must disappoint you: The foreign policy failures of the last decades are very much a topic that’s talked about in German politics.
What is the eu supposed to do? Unlike the US our hand down equipment is shet, ukraine doesn’t want it unlike the us stockpile? So we have and will fund the war!
The unfortunate and sensitive truth of the war is, that russia has to “win”! It does if doesn’t want to repeat the October revolution! The thing is it can’t, what do you think what the fuck would happen if Ukraine got its nukes and strategic bomber fleet back bec russia broke the budapest accord? That Putin would shy away from a nuclear war if his gilded throne starts shaking?
I’ll make you recall this comment when a Russian bomb tore your place apart just because the EU started to be credible.
There are 450m EU citizens at risk. Those are the ones the EU member countries have to care about. Yeah, we hate what Putin did to UA but our priority is EU first and there’s nothing wrong about that.
Deploying EU troops on UA territory and let them fight Russian soldiers directly will be seen as an act of war. That’s not yet another red line that Russia set up and people ignored. Putin will warm up whatever nukes he has left - not as a threat but as a weapon to use.
And then what? Would you risk everything just to prove what a mean boy you are?
UA wants security guarantees. Deploying Western troops on their territory to secure the borders is a security guarantee.
That is what can prevent another attack by Russia. RUS would have to attack these troops to advance which would trigger not just a war against UA (again) but also against whom those troops belong to.
Oh we remember our history very clearly. We are currently in the most peaceful period of our continent since its colonization. And we clearly need that peace because the last wars on this continent were more bloodier and deathly than the ones before.
If Europe decides to return to ye old days there won’t just be a litte squabble at the edges - WW3 will happen! Don’t you realize that?
Would you have your own country’s military deploy in Ukraine? Would you, personally, go help Ukrainians fight the Russian invaders?
This ain’t age of empires. In the real world, nobody wants to go to war. This is why in a democracy, elected leaders might hesitate whereas dictators don’t really mind spending a few thousand lives to make a point.
You know, us helping you in your pointless little wars (your welcome by the way)were very unpopular governmental decisions here? Multiple govs failed in multiple countries for doing so!
And yes! We should draw the line at ukraine! Wanna take a fucking gander at why? Maybe, and this is going to be a wild guess so hold my hand, because of Russia’s nuclear armada capable of destroying the entirety of earth?
Because you americans sent your troops in? Need I remind you again that while your are handing down your worn out military equipment, we are going into debt to fund the Ukrainian war?
But I am going to ask you once again to think about what you typed! Oki, eu goes in with the troops, now what? Putin leader of strong big russian war machine, who by his own propaganda does claims to be able to rekt nato in it’s entirety, is not only threatened by the shame of not being capable of dealing with small poor ukraine and recreating the conditions of the oktober revolution but an actual invasion of a wildly superior force? Nuclear war! Nuclear war that will destroy all of europe including that of ukraine! But you don’t live here do you? Why would you care for hundreds of millions of lives here you american cunt!
I know this is going to be a strange concept for you, an american cunt, but the eu does not want to become a colonialist power! Unlike you american fucks we don’t want to risk nuclear armageddon so that your collective minuscular cock seems ever little larger!
So from I am apparently a temper tantrum throwing bot?
Righties Trump did surrender in a fucking war he wasn’t a part in and the eu, aside from moral ones not that you an american would be capable of understanding those, has no reason to help Ukraine! And eu is really just wants to personally antagonize Putin, not defend the sovereignty of a neutral state, so that the old incompetent dictator may be replaced by a possibly young competent one! Lots of sense-sies
You know there is no shame in looking up what nukes are? I know you are an American!
Since their invention no war has ever been fought by two sides that have it!Why do you think why was the cold war fought by proxies and a continous dick measuring contest?
And when did you guys sent your troops in? I must have missed it! After all you do proclaim yourself the protector of the free world and you do burn inappropriate amounts of of your GDP on the army, plus Biden was pro-Ukraine no?
Ukraine needs Nato membership.
Fuck Russia and fuck Trumpland for opposing it.
NATO means nothing because Trump won’t back NATO if a NATO country is attacked. Trump wouldn’t defend the US even if the US was invaded.
Going forward, Europe needs to assume there’s no US. If they can’t supply Ukraine, they can’t supply NATO.
Eu membership entails that we defend each other! Its just never was called for bef
But Russia really broke its fangs into Ukraine, the big strong russian warmachine can’t deal with lil poor Ukraine… So its not like our mutual def pack will be called now!
NATO is not happening now.
EU will NOT do what it takes. Germany’s ruling oligarch clan wants Russian gas back on, everyone else can get fucked.
Ukraine needs nuclear weapons to defend itself properly.
I hope they already started the assembly. Ukraine tried to play by the rules and look where it go it. Geopolitics at the end of the day who has the guns and will to use them.
“Oligarch clan” LMFAO. You’d rather tame a herd of cats.
Germany foreign policy or lack there of speaks for itself.
Like this? Like switching domestic heating over to heat pumps? Germany isn’t planning on using any fossil gas in the future, the stuff that will be left (because it cannot be avoided, e.g. as chemical feedstock, or to reduce iron ore) will be green hydrogen.
Also I’m sorry you don’t like Gepards, or Leopards. Or Lynxes. Big cats in general.
You haven’t been following the innumerable articles about German industries wringing their hands and moaning about the good old days of cheap energy. They might be cajoling the general public, but the corporations are suffering and having trouble adapting. Everything was designed around cheap Russian gas. And they’ve thrown all of their nuclear infrastructure away because of their rabid ecologist party (which has in part contaminated their French neighbours).
Nuclear is no replacement for the critical uses of gas, noone wants to build it anyway because it’s expensive AF, and yes of course companies are moaning. They always are.
A full 1/3rd of German gas use is domestic heating which is getting replaced by heat pumps now, up to 70% of the replacement costs get covered by the state. Because, apparently, Germany wants to stick with Russian gas? Meanwhile, French industry uses ballpark the same amount of gas as the German industry. Yet noone is talking about the French industry controlling the French state, making them bow to Russians.
The fuck are you people talking about. What parallel dimension are you living in.
But what about France 🤡
Where did france import their gas from? Where is their current supply mix?
Mostly they’re buying from Norway, their mix hasn’t really changed.
As Europe overall is weaning itself off natural gas (Germany leads, but others will follow once the economics of scale are there) Norway will in all likelihood be the only supplier for a while.
Go back to lemmygrad, FUD there.
On topic on hand is germany’s failed foreign policy.
And your response is a lot of cope.
Clearly looks Germans dont understand the situation their regime has put them in… In 2025 🤡
The topic you started was Germany allegedly being an oligarchy, moreso, that those oligarchs would form a singular clan. And I must disappoint you: The foreign policy failures of the last decades are very much a topic that’s talked about in German politics.
What is the eu supposed to do? Unlike the US our hand down equipment is shet, ukraine doesn’t want it unlike the us stockpile? So we have and will fund the war!
The unfortunate and sensitive truth of the war is, that russia has to “win”! It does if doesn’t want to repeat the October revolution! The thing is it can’t, what do you think what the fuck would happen if Ukraine got its nukes and strategic bomber fleet back bec russia broke the budapest accord? That Putin would shy away from a nuclear war if his gilded throne starts shaking?
If EU wants to be treated like a global player, EU should be deploying in Ukraine. Defeat Russia in its own back yard.
Then EU can start demanding to be treated like equal patner vis a vis US
That’s the thing about credibility, it requires hard sick power and result. None of which EU shown thus far.
Trump exposed EU for being weak as bitches and instead of EU doing the thing, they do more sumits and thoughts and prayers.
Nobody is stopping anynof EU member states to deploy in Ukraine. Russia got Koreans helping the JFC…
I’ll make you recall this comment when a Russian bomb tore your place apart just because the EU started to be credible.
There are 450m EU citizens at risk. Those are the ones the EU member countries have to care about. Yeah, we hate what Putin did to UA but our priority is EU first and there’s nothing wrong about that.
Deploying EU troops on UA territory and let them fight Russian soldiers directly will be seen as an act of war. That’s not yet another red line that Russia set up and people ignored. Putin will warm up whatever nukes he has left - not as a threat but as a weapon to use.
And then what? Would you risk everything just to prove what a mean boy you are?
Ukraine doesn’t ask for that. They only need weapons which you won’t give.
UA wants security guarantees. Deploying Western troops on their territory to secure the borders is a security guarantee.
That is what can prevent another attack by Russia. RUS would have to attack these troops to advance which would trigger not just a war against UA (again) but also against whom those troops belong to.
And yeah, UA needs more weapons.
Tuck that dick for Putin harder, boy.
Clearly Europeans forgot their own history.
Pathetic.
That’s unfortunately exactly the case. Europeans forgot. Pro-Putin populists and nazis are on the rise in many European countries.
Oh we remember our history very clearly. We are currently in the most peaceful period of our continent since its colonization. And we clearly need that peace because the last wars on this continent were more bloodier and deathly than the ones before.
If Europe decides to return to ye old days there won’t just be a litte squabble at the edges - WW3 will happen! Don’t you realize that?
🤡
Would you have your own country’s military deploy in Ukraine? Would you, personally, go help Ukrainians fight the Russian invaders? This ain’t age of empires. In the real world, nobody wants to go to war. This is why in a democracy, elected leaders might hesitate whereas dictators don’t really mind spending a few thousand lives to make a point.
Us including most of EU invaded Afghanistan over a lot less shit than what Russia is doing
EU also helped in Iraq.
France bombed Gaddafi and regulating deploys in Sahara for “peace keeping”
US has troops in Syria who engaged russians there killing some too.
Turkey shot down a few Russian jets in 2010s to tell Putin to get fucked.
Lets draw the line at Ukraine 🤡
When did the eu invade afganistan?
You know, us helping you in your pointless little wars (your welcome by the way)were very unpopular governmental decisions here? Multiple govs failed in multiple countries for doing so!
And yes! We should draw the line at ukraine! Wanna take a fucking gander at why? Maybe, and this is going to be a wild guess so hold my hand, because of Russia’s nuclear armada capable of destroying the entirety of earth?
Because you americans sent your troops in? Need I remind you again that while your are handing down your worn out military equipment, we are going into debt to fund the Ukrainian war?
But I am going to ask you once again to think about what you typed! Oki, eu goes in with the troops, now what? Putin leader of strong big russian war machine, who by his own propaganda does claims to be able to rekt nato in it’s entirety, is not only threatened by the shame of not being capable of dealing with small poor ukraine and recreating the conditions of the oktober revolution but an actual invasion of a wildly superior force? Nuclear war! Nuclear war that will destroy all of europe including that of ukraine! But you don’t live here do you? Why would you care for hundreds of millions of lives here you american cunt!
I know this is going to be a strange concept for you, an american cunt, but the eu does not want to become a colonialist power! Unlike you american fucks we don’t want to risk nuclear armageddon so that your collective minuscular cock seems ever little larger!
Trump doesn’t care if Russian invades the EU.
The EU defending Ukraine is no reason for Putin to commit suicide.
You don’t have the faintest fucking clue what u are talking about do you?
This bot be spazzin’
So from I am apparently a temper tantrum throwing bot?
Righties Trump did surrender in a fucking war he wasn’t a part in and the eu, aside from moral ones not that you an american would be capable of understanding those, has no reason to help Ukraine! And eu is really just wants to personally antagonize Putin, not defend the sovereignty of a neutral state, so that the old incompetent dictator may be replaced by a possibly young competent one! Lots of sense-sies
Who is going to invade the eu?
When did the latest russian republic ever hold a genocide in ukraine?
Eeasier there with a melt down dear.
Righties, claim that the other has a meltdown so that you don’t have to address their argument… This is sad mate!
Defending Europe’s territorial sovereignty is not in EU’s interest because Russia has nukes.
This is a Russian talking point dear.
You know there is no shame in looking up what nukes are? I know you are an American!
Since their invention no war has ever been fought by two sides that have it!Why do you think why was the cold war fought by proxies and a continous dick measuring contest?
And when did you guys sent your troops in? I must have missed it! After all you do proclaim yourself the protector of the free world and you do burn inappropriate amounts of of your GDP on the army, plus Biden was pro-Ukraine no?
What part of Ukraine is eu sovereignty?
Wowsies an American does not know basic geography, how terribly stereotypical
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Nobody else needs nukes they need to partner up with someone who has them.
Who is that going to be for Ukraine?
Note that Ukraine is being fucked over by three nuclear powered states currently…
Nato.
Dude the nato is lead by the US!
The EU membership also entails a mutual def agreement!