I’ve noticed that in both Belgium and The Netherlands there has been an increase in war talk lately, saying how we need more military personnel and that we need to be wary of Russia. I’ve seen some British articles about it too.
Now, I hope it is purely coincidental otherwise I’d have to get worried about EU+UK being complete idiots and preparing for war.
War with the East will be indecisive and very costly for both sides. If the war doesn’t become nuclear, then I can see the conditions of the October Revolution (WW1) being replicated everywhere in the West.
The war will become very unpopular once the realities of war set in. Vietnam draft riots will be a pindrop compared to war with Russia, especially since the youth (they fight wars) nowadays (at least in the US) don’t eat up propaganda as well as they used to.
I doubt there will be an actual hot war between the east and west yet as the west knows how destructive it would be for themselves. But I think more proxy wars are likely. All of this increase in military spending is just a racket to increase the bottom line of the arms industry.
It’s scary how little debate this entails. Our countries are in war in Yemen, and I’d say 80% of the public doesn’t even know it.
The talk is different than the talk at the beginning of the Russian invasion now. Instead of a ‘hypothetical’ war the focus is now more on preparing for a ‘soon to be imminent’ war
This is shown objectively, isn’t it? Their budgets are going up.
Yeah I guess. A little voice in my head is telling me that surely they won’t be that stupid. But then again they probably are.
Communists in france think Ukraine has a right to self defence and host fundraisers for the ukrainian army. You can extrapolate the rest from here.
I’m guessing it’s the “communist” party, the swarm of trot parties and maybe some (supposedly) marxist-leninist parties like the PCRF? I know the PRCF (Pôle de renaissance Communiste en France) is supporting Russia against the Ukrainian Nazis. I don’t know that much about other parties.
im mostly shitting on the NPA and their nebula of like minded idiots, PRCF is very good.
so your national equivalent of democrats call themselves communists?
Not exactly.
The French equivalent to the Democrats, as in the status quo party that serves to prepare the country for further right-wingery, is Macron’s La République en marche/Renaissance (The marching republic/Rebirth) (with the equivalent to the Republicans would be Marine LePen’s Rassemblement National/Front national (The National gathering/National front)). What the “communists” is referring to is mainly the so called Partie communiste Français (French communist party), a now minority party, which used to be an actual Marxist-Leninist party until the fall of the commintern, since then the PCF has abandoned it’s revolutionary character to become an unremarkable “left” reformist third party that still calls itself communist by pure opportunism, this debacle has caused many splits that gave birth to smaller nominally communist parties ranging from Trotskyists to Marxist-Leninists (Lutte ouvrière, Révolution permanente, Partie communiste révolutionnaire de France, Pôle de renaissance communiste en France, etc…).
thanks, that’s super informative!
I’m from Malta and although our government supports Ukraine (diplomatically not so much materially), they recognise that most Maltese wants to remain neutral.
My country (Portugal) supports Ukraine, however, I feel like most people just want to remain neutral. Unrelated, but most people also seem to support Palestine, which is good
I don’t follow French news ans social medias as much as I should to stay informed so I don’t know how much they’re beating it, but given that our national discount genocide joe has been blabbering about Ukraine lately I wouldn’t be surprised if they did.
In Denmark the conflict in Russia/Ukraine has resulted in accepting American troops being stationed here, and of course a massive $20 billion USD investment in the military, over the next 10 years. The articles are in Danish, use a translator if you’re interested.
Denmark has for at least 70 years always said no to having American troops stationed in our country, so it’s quite a big move. Very few political parties have been criticizing it this time around, except for the most left-wing ones (obviously including our very-small communist party).
Germans got so excited they accidentally remade the maus
:estonia-burning: is already stiffing the education budget for war. The Riigikogu cannot afford to give €50M for schools and increase teacher salaries, but €300M per annum until at least 2027 to
- as if by magic, suddenly money appears!Oh and Estonia wants to mine the eastern border. Everything is still also covered in Ukraine flags, just as it was 2 years ago.
ZelensKKKy was also in Tallinn 2 weeks ago and the reaction is exactly what you’d expect - at least in the online space, Estonians trying their hardest to maximize their 1940s Nazi power level, swooning over the golden idol of crackerkind.
being complete idiots and preparing for war
Pretty sure they’ve started preparing for war long ago. The first coup in Ukraine was in, what, 2004? Then there was a wave sweeping southern republics. 2008 was war between Russia and Georgia, plus the financial crisis. Arguably they’ve started preparing at least back then
Here in Denmark all parties in parliament besides the demsoc Red-Greens, from fascists to “socialists”, are in agreement to throw money at the military like drunk sailors. We’re told it happens to fulfill “NATO obligations”. We hear a lot of talk about how necessary it is to splurge on war stuff and we get a constant stream of news about undermanned warships and dilapidated barracks.
When it came into office in late 2022 the succdem-led right-wing government tried to raise what they called “crisis awareness”. Instead of politicians telling us that everything is going to be five with them at the helm, like they usually do, we were told how the world was a dangerous place and how the economy or Russia or the big bad bogeyman could come every moment. They used “need to secure funding for the military” to meet the imagined Russian threat as the official excuse to abolish a public holiday. The real reason was different though, as finance ministry ghouls had been salivating over the idea for years before the Ukraine war.
The “crisis awareness” thing didn’t work as a PR strategy and just made people dislike the government even more so they have dialed it down over the last year.
To solve the military’s alleged staffing crisis the politicians plan to expand already existing conscription. Today conscription is male-only and they get so many volunteers that forced military service is practically non-existing. They want to change this so more young people serve in the military for lo ger periods of time. They also want to impose forced military service on women, something that is framed by the government media as a huge advance for gender equality and women’s rights.
The official reason for the increased use of conscription is that they hope that a fraction of the conscripts will like it and sign contracts.
yeah, it worries me as well :/
Finland is prepared to redo our glorious history once more with a fascist ally by our side yet again.
lmao we’re so fucked
Yeah I’m getting serious tiny poodle vibes. Going “let me at em bro I swear to god bro I’ll fuck em up bro you’re lucky i’m on this leash aaaabark bark bark barkbarkabrkbark” at a pack of swole bears or something. We have like 40 soliders and maybe an old tractor somewhere. It’s a god damn suicide cult.
Not to disagree with you, but doesn’t Finland have conscription? I was surprised that a country with no active conflicts does that.
Yep. The red-scare brainworms are deeply rooted here, every boy has to go to the military to prepare for the inevitable day the russians come. It hasn’t really been taken very seriously for as long as I’ve lived, at least. Until now, I guess. A funny little cultural rite of passage meme where 18-year-olds get to fuck around with their bros in the woods for half a year. But tbh I never went myself, so I don’t really know what you actually learn there.
“40 soldiers and an old tractor” is what I assume is the portion of the conscripts who are actually ready and willing to fight, and didn’t just go there because they were expected to.
every boy
Yes, hello, this was me years ago.
From my very personal experience I’d say there are some who get some actual training and learn all kinds of things like how to hunt and eat a reindeer etc, but my placement was in the artillery and like 95% of everyone there was going to jump straight to Sweden if shit actually hit the fan, and that was the fucking artillery, like if someone is close enough to do damage there we’re royally screwed anyway
But you’re the happiest country in the world!
not with this suicide rate we aint
Every time there’s a happiness index Finland is always number 1, do they just not take that into account 😭
