cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/39866020

In these 32 ridings the PC candidate won thanks to vote splitting. Results are as of this morning and may have changed slightly.

Thanks to all spoiler candidates listed below /s

26 spoiler candidates are New Democrats, 11 are Green, and 5 are Liberal. Only one NDP candidate, Natasha Doyle-Merrick, had the decency to step down in Eglinton-Lawrence, but that election was still spoiled by Green candidate Leah Tysoe 😡

First past the post 👎👎👎

York South-Weston: election spoiled by Faisal Hassan (NDP); Daniel Di Giorgio (Liberal) would have won by 7957 votes (25%)

Hamilton Mountain: election spoiled by Kojo Damptey (NDP); Dawn Danko (Liberal) would have won by 8021 votes (21%)

Peterborough-Kawartha: election spoiled by Jen Deck (NDP); Adam Hopkins (Liberal) would have won by 7232 votes (13%)

Sault Ste. Marie: election spoiled by Gurwinder Dusanjh (Liberal); Lisa Vezeau-Allen (NDP) would have won by 2920 votes (10%)

Burlington: election spoiled by Megan Beauchemin (NDP); Andrea Grebenc (Liberal) would have won by 4447 votes (8%)

Hamilton East-Stoney Creek: election spoiled by Zaigham Butt (NDP); Heino Doessing (Liberal) would have won by 2784 votes (7%)

Kitchener South-Hespeler: election spoiled by Jeff Donkersgoed (NDP) and Jessica Riley (Green); Ismail Mohamed (Liberal) would have won by 2653 votes (7%)

Scarborough Centre: election spoiled by Sonali Chakraborti (NDP); Mazhar Shafiq (Liberal) would have won by 2104 votes (7%)

Kitchener-Conestoga: election spoiled by Jodi Szimanski (NDP); Joe Gowing (Liberal) would have won by 2636 votes (6%)

Bruce-Grey-Owen Sound: election spoiled by Joel Loughead (Green) and James Harris (NDP); Selwyn Hicks (Liberal) would have won by 2591 votes (6%)

Wellington-Halton Hills: election spoiled by Bronwynne Wilton (Green) and Simone Kent (NDP); Alex Hilson (Liberal) would have won by 3061 votes (6%)

Bay of Quinte: election spoiled by Amanda Robertson (NDP); David O’Neil (Liberal) would have won by 2629 votes (6%)

Mississauga-Erin Mills: election spoiled by Mubashir Rizvi (NDP); Qasir Dar (Liberal) would have won by 2067 votes (6%)

Thunder Bay-Atikokan: election spoiled by Stephen Margarit (Liberal); Judith Monteith-Farrell (NDP) would have won by 1436 votes (5%)

Willowdale: election spoiled by Boris Ivanov (NDP); Paul Saguil (Liberal) would have won by 1192 votes (4%)

Eglinton-Lawrence: election spoiled by Leah Tysoe (Green); Vince Gasparro (Liberal) would have won by 1223 votes (3%)

Milton: election spoiled by Katherine Cirlincione (NDP) and Susan Doyle (Green); Kristina Tesser Derksen (Liberal) would have won by 993 votes (2%)

Cambridge: election spoiled by Marjorie Knight (NDP); Rob Deutschmann (Liberal) would have won by 999 votes (2%)

Whitby: election spoiled by Jamie Nye (NDP) and Steven Toman (Green); Roger Gordon (Liberal) would have won by 1130 votes (2%)

Mississauga East-Cooksville: election spoiled by Alex Venuto (NDP); Bonnie Crombie (Liberal) would have won by 649 votes (2%)

Perth-Wellington: election spoiled by Jason Davis (NDP) and Ian Morton (Green); Ashley Fox (Liberal) would have won by 674 votes (2%)

Pickering-Uxbridge: election spoiled by Khalid Ahmed (NDP) and Mini Batra (Green); Ibrahim Daniyal (Liberal) would have won by 692 votes (2%)

Brantford-Brant: election spoiled by Ron Fox (Liberal) and Karleigh Csordas (Green); Harvey Bischof (NDP) would have won by 764 votes (1%)

Parry Sound-Muskoka: election spoiled by David Innes (Liberal); Matt Richter (Green) would have won by 451 votes (1%)

Mississauga-Lakeshore: election spoiled by Spencer Ki (NDP); Elizabeth Mendes (Liberal) would have won by 350 votes (1%)

Newmarket-Aurora: election spoiled by Denis Heng (NDP); Chris Ballard (Liberal) would have won by 329 votes (1%)

Mississauga Centre: election spoiled by Waseem Ahmed (NDP); Sumira Malik (Liberal) would have won by 216 votes (1%)

Etobicoke Centre: election spoiled by Giulia Volpe (NDP) and Brian Morris (Green); John Campbell (Liberal) would have won by 258 votes (1%)

Mississauga-Streetsville: election spoiled by Shoaib Khawar (NDP); Jill Promoli (Liberal) would have won by 183 votes

Scarborough-Rouge Park: election spoiled by Hibah Sidat (NDP) and Victoria Jewt (Green); Morris Beckford (Liberal) would have won by 115 votes

Algoma-Manitoulin: election spoiled by Reg Niganobe (Liberal); David Timeriski (NDP) would have won by 94 votes

Oakville: election spoiled by Diane Downey (NDP); Alison Gohel (Liberal) would have won by 2 votes

  • thisorthatorwhatever@lemmy.world
    7·
    3 days ago

    Thanks for the work, but too preachy, it’s no one person’s fault. I don’t want to have a two party system like in the USA, that is what happens when parties drop out.

    We have a FPTP system that is morally wrong, the chicken shit courts refuse to pass judgement and rule against it. The Conservatives and Liberals don’t want to change it, know that’s the only way they’ll get majorities, even if occasionally there parties will have to lose big.

    The simplest solution is give people a plurality of votes, pick as many candidates on the ballet as you want.

    • AlolanVulpix@lemmy.caEnglish
      41·
      3 days ago

      I don’t want to have a two party system

      That is the reality with winner-take-all electoral systems such as FPTP and Instant runoff voting (IRV). This phenomenon is described by Duverger’s Law.

      courts refuse to pass judgement and rule against it

      There is actually a court case against this. It’s called the Charter Challenge for Fair Voting.

      The simplest solution is give people a plurality of votes, pick as many candidates on the ballet as you want.

      The system you describe is known as Block Approval Voting (BAV). It is better than FPTP, but still not proportional representation. Even though it is “simple”, it still doesn’t most effectively solve the problem of wasted votes. There is no practical reason proportional representation can’t be implemented.

      Superior to BAV is Single Non-Transferable Vote (SNTV). SNTV has multi member districts. SNTV is a semi-proportional electoral system, which is better than winner take all, but still not considered proportional representation.

      You should take a look into Single Transferable Vote (STV). STV is considered proportional representation, and is just SNTV with ranking.

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      • thisorthatorwhatever@lemmy.world
        1·
        2 days ago

        BAV seems like it solves 80% or current problems without being much of a change, that’s why I like it. Everything else seems like a push too far, so it never gets implemented.

        • AlolanVulpix@lemmy.caEnglish
          12·
          2 days ago

          BAV seems like it solves 80% or current problems

          I’m not sure what evidence you are using to make this claim

          Everything else seems like a push too far

          I also disagree that everything else is too far. With PR, we are trying to satisfy a core tenet of democracy – that we are entitled and deserving of representation in government. And many countries, even the European Parliament, uses proportional representation!

          If we truly live in a democracy, we are entitled to have all our votes towards the outcome of an election.

          The only electoral system that can practically satisfy this criterion is proportional representation (a direct democracy is impractical). I wish there was some “easier” alternative to PR, but PR is the only way that we can ensure every vote counts.

          • thisorthatorwhatever@lemmy.world
            21·
            2 days ago

            Countries with PR arn’t doing as great as you think politically. Right wing governments have popped up everywhere. BAV plus smaller ridings solve most problems, such as vote splitting. Perfection is the enemy of getting it done.

            • AlolanVulpix@lemmy.caEnglish
              21·
              2 days ago

              Countries with PR arn’t doing as great as you think politically

              That’s not the objective of PR anyway.

              Right wing governments have popped up everywhere

              The goal of an electoral system is to obtain effective and proportionate representation. If you want to tackle right wingers, the appropriate venue would be in legislature or other democratic processes (e.g., conversations with peers).

              BAV plus smaller ridings solve most problems, such as vote splitting

              This is not a true statement. Vote splitting exists in any configuration of BAV.

              Perfection is the enemy of getting it done.

              How is ensuring that every vote counts to the outcome of an election considered “perfection”? That’s literally just democracy.

              The obstacle is not that PR is difficult to implement, but rather our elected officials prioritize party over country.

              • thisorthatorwhatever@lemmy.world
                1·
                2 days ago

                Our current Parliamentary system is hundred of years old, it survived much. Yes it needs fixing, but not a complete overhaul. I’m not a revolutionary, as most people aren’t. BAV fixes split votes, almost no change from how things are done now. No need for a whole new system if BAV fixes split votes.

                • AlolanVulpix@lemmy.caEnglish
                  1·
                  2 days ago

                  BAV fixes split votes

                  Actually, thinking more about this, I can see how split votes are lessened under BAV. Even if the problem of split votes is no longer a problem, what about wasted votes? Under BAV, that is still certainly a problem – there will be votes that elect nobody.

                  Yes [our electoral system] needs fixing, but not a complete overhaul

                  I don’t agree that implementing PR is a complete overhaul. If we look at mixed-member proportional (MMP), we actually mostly have the existing structures in place, and would actually eliminate the bigger problem of wasted votes, unlike BAV.

                  I’m not a revolutionary, as most people aren’t.

                  Me neither, I just believe that in a democracy, every vote must count.

                  • thisorthatorwhatever@lemmy.world
                    1·
                    1 day ago

                    *every vote must count *

                    This is why we need smaller riding, about 30,000 in size. Not the 100,000 to 120,000 that we have now. In a 30 day election a candidate can knock on about a 1000 doors a day, a little under a hundred doors an hour, 12 hours a day. It’s important to talk to people, understand what they need and want. Few people vote today, because ridings are so big.