My point is they’re both fucking 80. It’s really silly to ascribe one decline to age and another to drugs. Anyways Trumps still better at the snappy comeback, Biden never had that anyways, so the presidential debate is gonna be sad as fuck.

Trump has been incoherent for a couple of decades now

That’s just a straight up lie. maybe 5 years and I’m not yet convinced it’s not because it seems to work.