• surph_ninja@lemmy.world
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    9 days ago

    I’m just punching right. Tell the Dems to stop standing there.

    And it was the Dems who sued the socialist candidate off of the ballot in my state. Not the GOP. They occupy leftist space to prevent leftward movement, while Dems ally with the GOP to push through fascism.

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      9 days ago

      Yep, generalizations work across the board. /s

      Bernie and AOC are democrats. The Republicans and Democrats, although I could understand arguments against this, are humans. They can be greedy, shitty, liars, awesome, for the people and and for the oligarchs.

      I’m always a little suspect when someone in the face of the r’s having convicted rapists, some of them pedos, on their platform, taking away constitutional rights, and tanking the stock market, say the left is too right. Are they? Some, but let’s focus on putting out the fire, not the dumpsters paint job.

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        I don’t really know what to do with this comment.

        I don’t know who you think the left is, or what actions you associate with putting out the fire.

        I believe that the Democratic party leadership is extremely hostile to socialist policies, despite their enormous populist electoral power. Universal healthcare is good policy and good politics. So are jobs guarantees and basic minimum incomes and paid sick leave and free college. I have found that most Democrats who have the power to decide whether they would like voters to associate them with these policies or would like to avoid being associated with them choose the later.

        I’ll vote for the lesser of two evils, because I’m a highly educated supervoter news junkie. But ultimately what costs Democrats their power was not the criticism and anger I and people like me posted online: it was ignoring that criticism when we were warning them that they were running unpopular candidates on unpopular platforms.

        As far as I’m aware, conversations like this one are not hindering the good guys. What’s hindering the good guys is their choices and lack of integrity. The reason people like Chuck Schumer can’t stop Trump is not because I point out that he’s incapable of stopping Trump. It’s the other way around. I point that out because despite all efforts on the part of people like me, Chuck Schumer is unable to decide to stop Trump. That’s an internal problem and most critics of Democrats – which now includes most Democratic voters – are just spectators pointing to this problem.

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        9 days ago

        Bernie & AOC are center right at best. They’re both still feverishly advocating for sending more arms to extremists in Europe and the Middle East.

        I’m not sure you’ve even seen the left, based on this comment.

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          8 days ago

          …that’s not a right wing policy. That’s just a policy you don’t like.

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              Oh so now they’re far right extremists.

              Heard a lot of that said about the IRA as well. Ironically mostly funded by american left wingers.

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                  8 days ago

                  Not really, I just know that the difference between “terrorist” and “Freedom fighter” is usually very very political.

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                    No, it’s actually very simple. If they’re drawing swastikas on their bombs or committing genocide, they’re the bad guys.

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        8 days ago

        Technically, no, Bernie is an independent who caucuses with dems and runs on their presidential primary ticket. But Bernie supports the dems and I’m with Bernie Sanders on like 95% of policy.