• finitebanjo@lemmy.world
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    8 days ago

    Tankies aren’t left, the word means exactly what it has always meant: supporters of Russian and Chinese Dictatorships. People who would side with the Tanks in their respective massacres of civilians.

    I really wish we lived in a world where psyops and social media made no difference in elections.

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      If it’s “always meant supporting Russia” but the term was coined when Russia was run by the communist party and part of the USSR? Do you not think the communist that supported Russia “the Tankies” would be against the capitalist Oligarchy that Russia currently is?

      You’re just using a term to mean what you want it to. Definitely not what it’s “always meant”.

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        1. Lemmygrad, ML, and Hexbear Tankies support all three with no distinctions.

        2. Economically Russia has transformed structurally it has not. More specifically it has regressed due to Putin ignoring term limits and empowering a loyal Oligarchy. Putin has even said publicly that he wants to restore the former Russian Empire.

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          Lemmygrad, ML, and Hexbear Tankies support all three with no distinctions.

          Hahahahaha. You haven’t visited those instances one single time, I guarantee. I’m a Hexbear user, and it’s patently obvious that you haven’t even bothered to check. Hexbear users routinely criticise Putin for being the fascist scum he is. He’s attacking the rights of women and minorities, defundign the welfare state, and enacting policy exclusively on behalf of oligarchs. What hexbear/ML/grad users don’t do, is uncritically swallow russophobic state propaganda (e.g. claims of "evil Russian ghost fleet destroying internet cables with anchors, backed up by 0 evidence whatsoever), and they will not put the interests of the imperialist west above those of the imperialist Russia, as libs routinely do such as clapping in support of war budgets of the EU going to Rheinmetall.

          Economically Russia has transformed structurally it has not

          Literal braindead take. A capitalist oligarchy DID NOT EXIST in the USSR. Policies of universal free healthcare, universal free education to the highest level, universal good pensions, and fostering of unionisation, are all incompatible with a system that’s ruled by an “oligarchic minority profiting from the rest”. That’s why those things were all dismantled as soon as capitalism was restored. Russia suddenly started engaging in unequal exchange by importing cheap labour and products from the global south (which would have been beneficial in all economic senses for the USSR but it didn’t do because of its strong anti-imperialist stance)… There’s a million things proving the structural change. But you’re too russophobic and too bootlicker of the west to understand any of that or to do any reading on the topic.

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            7 days ago

            Right instead of a few high ranking families and one brutal dictator the USSR was run by…

            A few high ranking families and one brutal dictator…

            Fucking tankies bro stg

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              the USSR was run by a few high ranking families

              You literally cannot point to “high ranking families” in the USSR because there was not such a thing. Tell me, what did Stalin’s son rule over? Khruschchev’s? Maybe Brezhnev’s? Nothing. You’re just making shit up as you speak because gommunism bad. Meanwhile, the US has literally family clans in politics (Clintons, Bush, Kennedys). Every accusation is a confession.

              one brutal dictator

              Stalin was brutal… if your source is US State Department propaganda / Wikipedia (same thing). If you’re genuinely interested in learning about the red scare lies you’ve absorbed as a westerner (there’s a reason why Stalin isn’t demonized in places like South America or most of Asia), I recommend you to check out the ongoing podcast episodes of Proles Pod called The Stalin Eras, or Dominico Losurdo’s book “Stalin; The History and Critique of a Black Legend”. If you’re willing to have an honest and open discussion on the topic, feel free to bring up any questions or points that you want to make