• Hominine@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    Seeing such pro-Trump rhetoric from this account in just about every Biden post while fibbing about his administration’s stance on, say, abortion is really laying the agenda bare. One thinks such a troll would be a touch more subtle.

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      Anti biden isn’t automagically pro-trump because it’s an election year. Fuck outta here with this sanctimonious bullshit. Not everyone is a child with tunnel vision. Adults can juggle concepts and ideas [Biden is a worthless piece of shit] without capitulating to the enemy [Trump].

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        When I clarify a distinction without a difference and you bring ad-hominem to retort, I have little concern about your thoughts regarding who is behaving sanctimoniously.

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          8 months ago

          ad-hominem

          Ever since 2018 or so it’s really easy to spot someone who’s in the process of losing an internet argument, they just start shouting the names of logical fallacies at random.

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      It’s amusing you think I’m pro Trump.

      That’s hilarious.

      His stance on say abortion is split between his personal views and his political views. Like most things, I don’t think he’s capable of doing what’s necessary to protect our freedoms.

      Making abortion medication available through telemedicine does nothing to stop the erosion that’s currently underway, and even then, can- and will- be removed by the next Republican in office.

      His climate change agenda has been mere lip service compared to the oil production- which is record setting.

      He’s done nothing- to my knowledge- to actually protect voter’s rights.

      It’s taken his DoJ the better part of 3 years to get a warrant to recover extremely sensitive materials. They still don’t have all of it back. And it’s take. His DoJ the better part of 3 years to get a special prosecutor to investigate a man that started insurrection.

      You want to call me a troll? Fair enough. But don’t come crying to me when trump starts a second insurrection. Or you know, wins in November.

      I tried to warn you. But you wouldn’t listen.

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        8 months ago

        So noble to warn us while advising we ignore the evidence of our ears from just yesterday. I know where Biden stands with respect to women’s rights and seeing you twist that position says everything it needs to. That you go on to think the president can pull all the levers of government by fiat is unsurprising and seems almost a feature here with the regularity that it is regurgitated.

        Anti-Biden to a degree with which one is compelled to lie or pro-trump is a distinction without a difference by my lights.

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          I never said he could act unilaterally. I do think he could have done more, and didn’t.

          how much of this list is more to do with Harris, and people in the relevant agencies pushing for it. People like Becerra leading the HHS. I don’t know… I suspect a lot of it is actually from Harris’ contributions.

          I suspect that if he legitimately wanted to codify RvW, he would have gotten the filibuster suspended (he waffled on that, being apposed leading into it then switching,). There’s enough popular support to have done that, with exactly 2 senators holding out- Manchin and Sinema. they’re horse traders. and so is Biden.

          Or he could have supported packing the courts. (here we see his lackluster leadership.); never seeing RvW get overturned in the first place. McConnell has already shown he’d pack the courts if could get away with it. He already has.

          How much of that list, also, is going to go away the first moment a republican president gets into office? Some of it is already going to the courts (hence the bits about the DoJ defending it,). we need more than stop-gap executive orders and policies that can be reversed. And even then, you’ll notice that with the VA, they’re only providing abortion care for medical needs, or if it’s the result of rape and incest. the bare minimum.

          I don’t think he’s done enough. And I don’t think, if we give him another four years, he’s capable of doing enough. So yeah. call me Anti-Biden. That’s a badge I’ll wear happily. I don’t support people who support genocide, and that’s just one other issue. There’s also how he’s dove far-enough-right on immigration and border security, the GOP is trying to find new ways of being assholes.

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            8 months ago

            You suspect Biden can do things that are politically untenable I suspect you support Trump and are just slinging shit against the wall. Perhaps we’re both wrong.

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          It’s just how leftists like to operate. Live in half truths so deep that horseshoe theory looks suitable. People don’t KNOW why they don’t like Biden, they just don’t want to like him because their favorite media propagandist said not to.

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            8 months ago

            Centrists would rather lose to Trump than ever consider ceasing their support for Netanyahu’s genocide.

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              Nuance is lost here as it’s possible to both support Biden and decry what is happening in Palestine. You’ll notice no one here is in favor of genocide though the poster above is correct about people in left spaces loving to tar others with this word as well as other slanders. I suspect they have little concern about how far it carries whatever message they’re trying to tote and is merely a symptom of being unable to argue an actual point.

              Also, the country is largely centrist regardless of how many of us would like to believe the average person hews left. If you think I’m a centrist, you’ve got a rude awakening ahead.

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                Nuance is lost here as it’s possible to both support Biden and decry what is happening in Palestine

                Say that Biden should stop supporting genocide a few times and see what happens.

                You’ll notice no one here is in favor of genocide

                That’s been the precise opposite of what I’ve noticed.

                Also, the country is largely centrist regardless of how many of us would like to believe the average person hews left.

                That’s a piss poor reason for Biden to support genocide, and a worse reason to defend anyone who is lying and saying he isn’t.

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            I don’t like him because of the record oil production, genocide, strike breaking, border stance, or his fucking weird old man comments. I also don’t like trump because he’s worse in every regard. You have no left representation in your country. This comment should be embarrassing to anyone with a mild understanding of political theory.

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              It’s actually bizarre how you guys on the far left herald terrorists that sink entire ships full of fertilizer (that is going to cause the world’s biggest environmental disaster) yet at the same time cry about Biden approving more oil drilling. It’s not actually genocide. If you have any examples outside of the railroad strike breaking I would like to see. There is no justification to completely cripple the US economy. Border stance is kind of the same as it has been since 9/11.

              What else you got? You wanna talk about his accomplishments yet or you just want to find faults?

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                8 months ago

                I don’t partake in American propaganda so yeah hit me with the jot note version.

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                  8 months ago

                  You could also say “I don’t know anything about the subject, I just repeat what others in my propaganda circle tell me”. But that’s hard to admit so I totally understand.