• Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    You could also stop pretending Joe Biden is a supporter of genocide, but you won’t.

    If Biden stops supporting genocide, I’ll stop saying it.

    If you truly believe a genocide is happening to the Palestinian people, bullying democrats out of voting for Biden does nothing to help the Palestinian people.

    It’s a good thing I’m not doing that. I’m saying that Biden needs to stop supporting genocide.

    He hasn’t stopped selling them weapons. He’s still running interference for them at the UN. That’s support.

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      The US has treaties with Israel that to the best of my knowledge Biden can’t just unilaterally end without repurcussion.

      The opposition (Trump) has called for Israel to finish the job.

      So if you want to character ize the guy with the stance of a 2 state solution as being the genocidal option, go ahead, but it’s just so ridiculously naive.

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        The US has treaties with Israel that to the best of my knowledge Biden can’t just unilaterally end without repurcussion.

        None of those treaties require him to circumvent congress to sell weapons for genocide. None of them require him to run interference for Netanyahu at the UN.

        The opposition (Trump) has called for Israel to finish the job.

        And as always, if anyone is in any way critical of Biden’s support for genocide, it’s because they must be a Trumpist.

        So if you want to character ize the guy with the stance of a 2 state solution as being the genocidal option, go ahead, but it’s just so ridiculously naive.

        Both of them support genocide. I want Biden to stop. I doubt you do.

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          What does a 2 state solution mean? It means the Palestinian people weren’t genocided.

          Do you not get that? Because if you don’t, this situation is clearly more complex than you ever begun to realize.

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            What does a 2 state solution mean?

            In this context, about as much as anything else Biden says he supports and doesn’t back up with actions.

            Do you not get that?

            I get what Biden’s stated position is. His actions say the opposite.

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              Which specific actions?

              Aiding an ally in time of war as per the treaties while working towards a ceasefire and two state solution?

              Not only do you guys want Biden to be a war time president, but you specifically want him to wage war against Israel, and then you guys get offended when its pointed that the only people in the world this would benefit is Russia and Qatar/Iran.

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                Which specific actions?

                Biden is selling Netanyahu weapons that he knows will be used for genocide.

                Biden’s administration is propping up Netanyahu at the UN.

                Those specific actions.

                Aiding an ally in time of war as per the treaties while working towards a ceasefire and two state solution?

                No treaty requires Biden to circumvent congress to sell Netanyahu weapons for genocide. No treaty requires Biden to run interference for Netanyahu at the UN. Biden’s words regarding ceasefire and a 2 state solution are only words.

                Not only do you guys want Biden to be a war time president, but you specifically want him to wage war against Israel,

                You’re just making up ridiculous shit now.

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                  So, what do you guys want then? Long term, he stops selling to Israel, what next?

                  Qatar and Iran decide now that Israel has been cut off from the US, they decide to come calling on their promises to destroy Israel.

                  Do you support Israel then? Do you support Biden selling weapons again?

                  Does Hamas go back to attacking Israel? What exactly are your long term goals here?

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                    8 months ago

                    Israel can easily take care of themselves without the US being an accessory to Netanyahu’s genocide.