Amazing episode and superb acting from John Turturro. I audibly gasped a couple times, easily the best new TV I have seen in a while.

  • hollowmines [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
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    3 months ago

    I think this show stands out more than it normally would at the moment because 99.9% of current TV is absolute dogshit. It’s not high art but it’s made with attention to detail, effective use of style and a coherent sensibility that’s not just “here’s more slop.”

    I do kind of miss the simplicity of s1 (which I admired for finding a great way to capture the unreality of office life and the feeling of “going to work”) but I’m down for where things are headed. My only concern is that in the post-Lost landscape showrunners seem a little too eager to demonstrate they’re going to cross every t and dot every i, and not leave the viewer hanging on any mysteries…personally I like a little ambiguity and lingering mystery. Hopefully they don’t feel the need to didactically over-explain.

    Pretty funny to learn that the show’s creator used to work for a company that made doors.

    • LGOrcStreetSamurai [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
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      3 months ago

      I think this show stands out more than it normally would at the moment because 99.9% of current TV is absolute dogshit. It’s not high art but it’s made with attention to detail, effective use of style and a coherent sensibility that’s not just “here’s more slop.”

      I think in general the coming age of post whatever this current slop insanity is, the key to good art both mainstream and indie is just noticeably giving a damn about your art. I think we are going to see a time when art/artists at least look like they are trying they are going to get credit for it. Which a bit of shame to me in the larger sense as I think we always try and give a shit about what we make, but I think we are going to see a return to strong fundamentals

  • Sam [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
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    3 months ago

    I have trouble paying attention to episodes after a big cliffhanger that dont address it at all. This was the first episode I skimmed through a bit just because I really wanted to see some of Marks reintegration before having to wait for another week. Also I think him and Helly having a relationship is the worst part of the show, it feels like something that’s only included because its expected to be there.

    • Sulv [he/him, undecided]@hexbear.netOPMEnglish
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      3 months ago
      spoiler

      Just generally about their relationship: The real Helena essentially SA’d Mark this episode.

      I think it was S2E1 where Helena was obsessively watching Helly and Mark’s kiss. I wonder if she’s ever had a genuine relationship and if part of the reason she decided to go back in was to be with Mark.

  • adhocfungus@midwest.socialEnglish
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    3 months ago

    It was absolutely beautiful, no question. The acting is incredible as always, too.

    But I do not like the pacing this season. Season one was very steady and purposeful, building slowly to the climax in the last couple episodes. This season started even more frantic than the finale, and has been all over the place since. The events of this episode feel rushed. They feel like inevitable outcomes to what’s been set up, but without the escalation in-between.

    Still loving this season, but I think I liked S1 more so far.

    • LGOrcStreetSamurai [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
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      3 months ago

      Season 1 was one of the strongest seasons of television I have seen in the last ten years. I think the pacing of season 2 isn’t that bad but I do see what your saying for sure. Regardless, I’m genuinely pleased with this show, it’s refreshing to know that sci-fi shows don’t need to have robots or space ships to really play to the strengths of the genre.

      • FunkyStuff [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
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        3 months ago

        I’d recommend Dark if you want another sci-fi show that’s different. It’s a little closer to the usual sci-fi with time stuff, god particles, and other similar tropes but it plays a lot more with philosophical themes, the process of history, identity, and other fun things.

        • whatnots [it/its, he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
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          3 months ago

          yesss dark is so good! i just really like how the show takes itself seriously and doesn’t feel like it can be commercialized like stranger things. the storytelling is really well done and it doesn’t overexplain itself which i find really refreshing.