I chose social (service) workers, because Social Worker is a protected title in many states in the US but there are many people who do not have their degree/licensure who engage in the same if not similar work so I wanted to capture that.

Gonna preface my ideas with the fact that I have a basic understanding of the classes so I could be off base and would love feedback/corrections if I’m not applying the terms correctly.

I think the kneejerk reaction from people when they hear that someone works in social services would be that they are petty bourgeois, but I believe that because the field is so broad, and there is so much overlap in work that it is both petty and proletarian. For example, licensed Social Workers can engage in private or group practice where they work for themselves. At the same time, they have the option of working in the public/private/nonprofit sector if they would like, doing the same type of work or different, where they sell their labor to their employer. They can also do both of these things at the same time, or do one and then the other as they choose to change jobs. There are also people who do not have these qualifications who do essentially the same work, but can ONLY sell their labor to their employer, and do not have the option of starting their own practice, therefore I would consider them specifically proletariat. Their wages are often very, very low, typically to the point of qualifying for different types of low income assistance programs.

I think this probably gets more complex, too, due to the fact that the work has been professionalized over time with the advent of the degree and the licensure requirements while non-professional workers are still widely used and exploited in tandem.

Or, would Social Workers and social service workers necessarily exist in different classes from one another due to the professionalization of one and not the other (in the eyes of the employer)?

So yeah I’d love to hear any thoughts on this

  • ratboy [they/them]@hexbear.netOP
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    This is very helpful because there are a lot of pieces that you bring up that I was not bringing into focus when thinking about this…But as I was writing my thoughts, of course more and more questions started to come up that made me realize that this IS more complex than I thought. I think the conditions in the work here in the US is probably quite different from yours but similar. I’m gonna reread and give a more thoughtful response a bit later

    • heart-sickle

      It’s so complex that I find it hard to articulate as English isn’t my first language.

      I really aporeciate the discussion, I’ve been meaning to discuss this here in some form after I got it into my head that I do want to pursue a doctoral thesis in social work for the sole purpose of laying bare the contradictions within it and critically examine the history of this work. It’s currently framed from a very bourgeois history-style that omits the white terror & the way social work was also a tool for fascism etc. The work with the poors is framed as charity and aid, the control aspect never gets analyzed (although it is mentioned).

      Might not work a day for the rest of my life after I do this, but I will do it anyway.