It’s great that Pierre lost and he probably lost to someone better, but were there better candidates for the common people on the ballot? How are liberals as a whole for Canada? Would another party have been better - greens for example?

I’ve seen a community about better vote counting system, so it seems Canada is still a first past the post country?

  • atro_city@fedia.ioOP
    13·
    3 days ago

    The middle class suffered a lot while richer Canadians and Canadian corporations thrived by keeping their gouging practices.

    That’s what I heard too: the Liberals did nothing or not much. So, effectively it’ll be another… 4 years of liberal rule? Is everybody banking on this new dude, Mark Carney to be different?

    • CanadianCorhen@lemmy.ca
      4·
      3 days ago

      i expect him to be moderately different. Hes already made some changes (some of which i disagree with, such as removing the carbon tax.)

      Hopefully he seeks to distinguish himself, and gets rid of FPTP.

      • ZC3rr0r@lemmy.ca
        10·
        3 days ago

        If he actually gets rid of FPTP Mark would, in my opinion, go down in history as the most significant PM since John A. Macdonald.

          • atro_city@fedia.ioOP
            3·
            3 days ago

            This sounds earily similar to other countries. The one time a real left-leaning government comes into power for a term, they make some good, long-lasting changes for the benefit of the common man, and are promptly voted out.

          • ZC3rr0r@lemmy.ca
            1·
            3 days ago

            I know there’s a lot of folks you could list there that did great things for our country, but in my personal opinion changing how we elect our representatives is so fundamental to the functioning of the country not even universal health care compares.

            Not saying I’d trade PR for healthcare though, in case someone were to propose that Faustian deal.

              • ZC3rr0r@lemmy.ca
                1·
                2 days ago

                I don’t disagree with you on MacDonald’s track record. But in terms of significance to the country it’s hard to deny his influence. The country wouldn’t look anywhere like it does today, for example.

                But sure, my point remains the same: If Carney actually passes voting reform it would propel him to one of the most significant PMs in the entire country’s history.

    • Cyborganism@lemmy.ca
      41·
      3 days ago

      Personally, I don’t think so. Justin had the right ideas and the right attitude when he was first elected. But the Liberals made him fit in their mold (mould? As in cake?) and he basically stepped in line with what the lobbies told him.

      I doubt very much that Carney will change any of that. He’s going to focus on the economy as usual and leave the middle class to fend for themselves.

      That’s why I voted NDP.

      • kent_eh@lemmy.caEnglish
        5·
        3 days ago

        I doubt very much that Carney will change any of that. He’s going to focus on the economy as usual and leave the middle class to fend for themselves.

        Carney also brings with him an environmental focus. Though, as a lifelong economist, his preferred tools for getting to net zero are the tools he is most comfortable using - economic and policy pressure on the market.

        I see him using the still existing industrial carbon pricing system to incentivize industry to green up it’s act.

        In his book he also suggested that corporate bonuses should be shifted to punish/reward executives personally on factors including the level of negative externalities their decisions cause.