• SinAdjetivos@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    you’re going to mount a defense against the existence of Mt. St. Helens, right?

    I will!!! Mostly to try and better illustrate what is being meant by “perspective is not reality”.

    I am certain of the fact that Mt. St. Helens is a volcano that exists.

    A mountain exists in that location that was formed via an underlying volcano, however the name for both is Lawetlat’la.

    I am certain of the fact that it erupted prior to my existence upon this planet

    Volcanoes themselves generally do not erupt, magma chambers erupt through (and via that process create) volcanoes.

    I have never laid my own eyes upon this volcano

    Nor have most. Outside of eruption events the volcano isn’t visible, only the mountain is.

    The volcano Mt St Helens does not exist. Using the mountain of Lawetlat’la as evidence does not make the volcano Mt St Helens exist because while the mountain and volcano are distinct entities, standard naming convention is to call them both the same thing.

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      2 days ago

      I appreciate the time and effort you spent on this, but it feels more like an argument against words than it does against concepts.

      Colloquially, if I say “a volcano erupted” I’m not being inaccurate, even if it was the magma chamber that erupted; and if I say “Mt. St. Helens erupted”, everyone knows what I’m talking about even if the original name isn’t properly preserved or respected.

      However, I find downvotes distressing so I’m abandoning this thread, and I shall not downvote you just because I disagree. I hope you have a lovely day. :)

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        1 day ago

        argument against words than it does against concepts.

        That’s good feedback, thank you. I did do both and I think it muddled the message a bit.

        It was also not the best example, but I tried lol. Have a lovely day!