This article keeps getting posted but it really just shows the author doesn’t understand the issue that was presented. It goes as far as brushing of the criticism almost immediately. Truth is Proton decided they would publicly praise a running fascist leader for goodboy points
Proton didn’t decide anything, Andy Yen posted ONE tweet and then doubled down on it with the Proton Reddit account which was deleted.
I know the US is really into this “us vs them” or Republicans against the Democrats or whatever you want to and that is fair, that’s how US policies sadly work which is also one of the reasons why the country is basically corrupt.
For most people agreeing with one statement a politician made doesn’t mean anything. I can agree with some things Geert Wilders said, but that doesn’t mean Ill vote for him.
There are other articles about the whole situation, but I believe that the Tweet says more than the bullshit some people have been shouting on every post regarding Proton. Share the Tweet yes, but don’t share the bullshit.
I mean this is like saying “I only agree with that one thing Hitler did” and then trying to explain to everyone why you felt the need to defend Hitler. I mean sure, there were probably a handful of policies the Nazis got right, but people are going to look at you funny if you go around phrasing it like that. Especially, in this case, if that “one thing” was actually just praise for shitty authoritarian policies.
Calling this an “us vs them” is disingenuous. Republicans are actively shredding the rule of law in the US by the day. Democrats are weak on some policy points (though not tech policy, by the way). The two are not the same at all
Proton didn’t decide anything, Andy Yen posted ONE tweet and then doubled down on it with the Proton Reddit account which was deleted.
How are you going to say that Proton didn’t say anything and then acknowledge that the official Proton social media accounts were making statements like this:
Until corporate Dems are thrown out, the reality is that Republicans remain more likely to tackle Big Tech abuses
That’s the context you keep brushing under the rug. The official Proton position is not just that Trump made a good choice, on this one thing, it’s that you should vote for Republicans over Democrats.
Yes, it was official corporate Proton position to delete that comment. But it was the official Proton position to make that comment in the first place.
I don’t brush anything under the rug. I actively shared the Tweet that started this hole BS.
Well fair, maybe I should have shown their response. They doubled down on it, but they also deleted it.
Both of the American parties are a shitshow, but then again America is just corrupt anyway. Trump didn’t even have 50% of the votes.
Saying “Proton = Maga” or whatever doesn’t shed light on the issue either. In the end I believe more in actions than words (and i have faith in a decent governance structure) and I believe that people should take their own conclusion on the matter based on the Tweet and well yeah I should start linking the Reddit post again.
The moment Proton itself starts to fuck things over I am out of there as well, but currently I prepaid just before this came to light, but I use my own domain so mhe
I don’t brush anything under the rug. I actively shared the Tweet that started this hole BS.
I get that. But my point is that you can’t claim that Proton’s CEO is acting independently of the Proton corporation itself when Proton’s official corporate accounts chimed in on his side on this.
Both of the American parties are a shitshow
Not on antitrust. The Biden administration was one of the strongest advocates for consumers on antitrust issues we’ve seen since Robert Bork convinced Reagan to tear it all down.
Anyone who says otherwise is trying to lie to the American public about it, and should be called out for actively advocating for false MAGA propaganda. Andy Yen did it, and Proton agreed with it.
Proton’s official account also deleted the comment and Yen created a new account for himself so Proton did what eas really required by any rule book or whatever you wanna call it in situations like this.
So no I wouldn’t say Proton agreed on it.
Call him out for his tweet or Protons post fair, but that doesnt him a MAGA supporter. It just makes him a supporter of a bullshit statement. And it definitely doesn’t make Proton MAGA. Nuances are needed to make it so people can have their own opinions formed and we don’t get a black or white/good or bad view on the world.
Never said I was American. Proton as a team has kept him on so that’s their answer. He did not have to make a post at all complementing Donald but he did and that fact says A LOT.
Who else’s opinion should I barade them with then? I was a loyal customer and this was something I felt ruined their reputation to myself and anyone that should be looking to find a solution that doesn’t show sympathies for fascist regimes. And I feel the Medium article I initially commented on brushes those concerns away and focus on “but are they MAGA?”
I am sorry, but I find it so absurd that people can literally kick somebody or a company down because of something relatively small.
Most companies can be found dirt on, what are you going to do?
I am just saying that there is more to the story than just calling somebody a MAGA supporter which these days is basically calling somebody a Nazi
This article keeps getting posted but it really just shows the author doesn’t understand the issue that was presented. It goes as far as brushing of the criticism almost immediately. Truth is Proton decided they would publicly praise a running fascist leader for goodboy points
Proton didn’t decide anything, Andy Yen posted ONE tweet and then doubled down on it with the Proton Reddit account which was deleted.
I know the US is really into this “us vs them” or Republicans against the Democrats or whatever you want to and that is fair, that’s how US policies sadly work which is also one of the reasons why the country is basically corrupt. For most people agreeing with one statement a politician made doesn’t mean anything. I can agree with some things Geert Wilders said, but that doesn’t mean Ill vote for him.
There are other articles about the whole situation, but I believe that the Tweet says more than the bullshit some people have been shouting on every post regarding Proton. Share the Tweet yes, but don’t share the bullshit.
I mean this is like saying “I only agree with that one thing Hitler did” and then trying to explain to everyone why you felt the need to defend Hitler. I mean sure, there were probably a handful of policies the Nazis got right, but people are going to look at you funny if you go around phrasing it like that. Especially, in this case, if that “one thing” was actually just praise for shitty authoritarian policies.
Calling this an “us vs them” is disingenuous. Republicans are actively shredding the rule of law in the US by the day. Democrats are weak on some policy points (though not tech policy, by the way). The two are not the same at all
How are you going to say that Proton didn’t say anything and then acknowledge that the official Proton social media accounts were making statements like this:
That’s the context you keep brushing under the rug. The official Proton position is not just that Trump made a good choice, on this one thing, it’s that you should vote for Republicans over Democrats.
Yes, it was official corporate Proton position to delete that comment. But it was the official Proton position to make that comment in the first place.
I don’t brush anything under the rug. I actively shared the Tweet that started this hole BS.
Well fair, maybe I should have shown their response. They doubled down on it, but they also deleted it. Both of the American parties are a shitshow, but then again America is just corrupt anyway. Trump didn’t even have 50% of the votes.
Saying “Proton = Maga” or whatever doesn’t shed light on the issue either. In the end I believe more in actions than words (and i have faith in a decent governance structure) and I believe that people should take their own conclusion on the matter based on the Tweet and well yeah I should start linking the Reddit post again.
The moment Proton itself starts to fuck things over I am out of there as well, but currently I prepaid just before this came to light, but I use my own domain so mhe
I get that. But my point is that you can’t claim that Proton’s CEO is acting independently of the Proton corporation itself when Proton’s official corporate accounts chimed in on his side on this.
Not on antitrust. The Biden administration was one of the strongest advocates for consumers on antitrust issues we’ve seen since Robert Bork convinced Reagan to tear it all down.
Anyone who says otherwise is trying to lie to the American public about it, and should be called out for actively advocating for false MAGA propaganda. Andy Yen did it, and Proton agreed with it.
Proton’s official account also deleted the comment and Yen created a new account for himself so Proton did what eas really required by any rule book or whatever you wanna call it in situations like this.
So no I wouldn’t say Proton agreed on it.
Call him out for his tweet or Protons post fair, but that doesnt him a MAGA supporter. It just makes him a supporter of a bullshit statement. And it definitely doesn’t make Proton MAGA. Nuances are needed to make it so people can have their own opinions formed and we don’t get a black or white/good or bad view on the world.
“Proton didn’t decide anything” He is the God damned CEO of the company.
Proton is not responsible for everything Andy Yen does, Andy Yen has to take responsibility for everything Proton does.
But his power is limited anyway since there is a governance structure by using the non profit that is shareholder of Proton. This is not America.
Never said I was American. Proton as a team has kept him on so that’s their answer. He did not have to make a post at all complementing Donald but he did and that fact says A LOT.
It says a lot to you, but not to a lot of people. Stop barading the company for your own opinion
Who else’s opinion should I barade them with then? I was a loyal customer and this was something I felt ruined their reputation to myself and anyone that should be looking to find a solution that doesn’t show sympathies for fascist regimes. And I feel the Medium article I initially commented on brushes those concerns away and focus on “but are they MAGA?”
I am sorry, but I find it so absurd that people can literally kick somebody or a company down because of something relatively small. Most companies can be found dirt on, what are you going to do? I am just saying that there is more to the story than just calling somebody a MAGA supporter which these days is basically calling somebody a Nazi
I don’t know what to say to you. Something small? I have lost faith if fascist sympathies is small. God help us