• ByteJunk@lemmy.world
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    15 hours ago

    I use it to speed up my work.

    For example, I can give it a database schema and ask it for what I need to achieve and most of the time it will throw out a pretty good approximation or even get it right on the first go, depending on complexity and how well I phrase the request. I could write these myself, of course, but not in 2 seconds.

    Same with text formatting, for example. I regularly need to format long strings in specific ways, adding brackets and changing upper/lower capitalization. It does it in a second, and really well.

    Then there’s just convenience things. At what date and time will something end if it starts in two weeks and takes 400h to do? There’s tools for that, or I could figure it out myself, but I mean the AI is just there and does it in a sec…

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      3 hours ago

      changing upper/lower capitalization

      That’s literally a built-in VSCode command my dude, it does it in milliseconds and doesn’t require switching a window or even a conscious thought from you

    • morbidcactus@lemmy.ca
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      Gotta be real, LLMs for queries makes me uneasy. We’re already in a place where data modeling isn’t as common and people don’t put indexes or relationships between tables (and some tools didn’t really support those either), they might be alright at describing tables (Databricks has it baked in for better or worse for example, it’s usually pretty good at a quick summary of what a table is for), throwing an LLM on that doesn’t really inspire confidence.

      If your data model is highly normalised, with fks everywhere, good naming and well documented, yeah totally I could see that helping, but if that’s the case you already have good governance practices (which all ML tools benefit from AFAIK). Without that, I’m totally dreading the queries, people already are totally capable of generating stuff that gives DBAs a headache, simple cases yeah maybe, but complex queries idk I’m not sold.

      Data understanding is part of the job anyhow, that’s largely conceptual which maybe LLMs could work as an extension for, but I really wouldn’t trust it to generate full on queries in most of the environments I’ve seen, data is overwhelmingly super messy and orgs don’t love putting effort towards governance.

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      adding brackets and changing upper/lower capitalization

      I have used a system wide service in macOS for that for decades by now.

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      14 hours ago

      it’s really embarrassing when the promptfans come here to brag about how they’re using the technology that’s burning the earth and it’s just basic editor shit they never learned. and then you watch these fuckers “work” and it’s miserably slow cause they’re prompting the piece of shit model in English, waiting for the cloud service to burn enough methane to generate a response, correcting the output and re-prompting, all to do the same task that’s just a fucking key combo.

      Same with text formatting, for example. I regularly need to format long strings in specific ways, adding brackets and changing upper/lower capitalization. It does it in a second, and really well.

      how in fuck do you work with strings and have this shit not be muscle memory or an editor macro? oh yeah, by giving the fuck up.

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        (100% natural rant)

        I can change a whole fucking sentence to FUCKING UPPERCASE by just pressing vf.gU in fucking vim with a fraction of the amount of the energy that’s enough to run a fucking marathon, which in turn, only need to consume a fraction of the energy the fucking AI cloud cluster uses to spit out the same shit. The comparison is like a ping pong ball to the Earth, then to the fucking sun!

        Alright, bros, listen up. All these great tasks you claim AI does it faster and better, I can write up a script or something to do it even faster and better. Fucking A! This surge of high when you use AI comes from you not knowing how to do it or if even it’s possible. You!

        You prompt bros are blasting shit tons of energy just to achieve the same quality of work, if not worse, in a much fucking longer time.

        And somehow these executives claim AI improves fucking productivity‽

        • self@awful.systems
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          exactly. in Doom Emacs (and an appropriately configured vim), you can surround the word under the cursor with brackets with ysiw] where the last character is the bracket you want. it’s incredibly fast (especially combined with motion commands, you can do these faster than you can think) and very easy to learn, if you know vim.

          and I think that last bit is where the educational branch of our industry massively fucked up. a good editor that works exactly how you like (and I like the vim command language for realtime control and lisp for configuration) is like an electrician’s screwdriver or another semi-specialized tool. there’s a million things you can do with it, but we don’t teach any of them to programmers. there’s no vim or emacs class, and I’ve seen the quality of your average bootcamp’s vscode material. your average programmer bounces between fad editors depending on what’s being marketed at the time, and right now LLMs are it. learning to use your tools is considered a snobby elitist thing, but it really shouldn’t be — I’d gladly trade all of my freshman CS classes for a couple semesters learning how to make vim and emacs sing and dance.

          and now we’re trapped in this industry where our professionals never learned to use a screwdriver properly, so instead they bring their nephew to test for live voltage by licking the wires. and when you tell them to stop electrocuting their nephew and get the fuck out of your house, they get this faraway look in their eyes and start mumbling about how you’re just jealous that their nephew is going to become god first, because of course it’s also a weirdo cult underneath it all, that’s what happens when you vilify the concept of knowing fuck all about anything.

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          The only things I’ve seen it do better than I could manage with a script or in Vim are things that require natural language comprehension. Like, “here’s an email forwarded to an app, find anything that sounds like a deadline” or “given this job description, come up with a reasonable title summary for the page it shows up on”… But even then those are small things that could be entirely omitted from the functionality of an app without any trouble on the user. And there’s also the hallucinations and being super wrong sometimes.

          The whole thing is a mess