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Reading list: civilians fighting militia actually happened, but on different streets, not the square. Moreover, civilians were also brutal. Libsowned.docx
Seriously, if I recall correctly they firebombed a military bus and burned a bunch of people alive. Fucked up day.
Empty bicycle
Ahh yes, it’s very normal for Chinese to abandon their bicycle on Tian An Men Square in1989. In fact, i know someone that abandon 3 of it for luck!
They spend loads of time labelling people with “taking cover” without ever considering that people take cover when they are being fired on.
“Taking cover from what?” has that wonderful “States rights to do what?” energy.
“See, they weren’t massacred! Look at this snapshot long before the end of the event where many people are alive, taking cover from a hail of bullets, and successfully hiding for their lives! Checkmate, libs!”
They’re probably taking cover from whatever killed all those bicycles
The bicycles are another thing they’re ignoring. If someone wanted to leave the area, why wouldn’t they go on their bicycle? It would be faster. Those people didn’t want to be in the road, and they wanted to get out of the road in enough of a hurry that they didn’t wheel their bicycles to the side.
Those damn 8 lane highways at it again
No they’re just taking cover from the sun! It was a very hot day !
Suddenly very bright and hot sun. Better get down from your bicycle and take cover.
Very curious to see how they react to this point you made.
There is credible evidence of a massacre, with multiple pictures, witnesses and reports from civilians, local media and foreign media. Within this link are some of these pictures, be warned, they are of a graphic nature, showing what happens after human bodies are crushed by tanks and protesters are shot with live ammunition.
I apologise in advance and I’m going to hide this link through multiple spoilers because of its graphic nature. Viewer discretion is advised.
WARNING, CONTAINS GRAPHIC IMAGES.
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Looks almost like these people got run over by tanks or something.
But that’s not possible because my reeducation camp told me that it never happened.
I’m a socialist and I think the CCP is evil and only pretend to care about their people. I also don’t believe that centralization of power is ever a good idea. I just don’t get tankie idiology.
Some of them were.
There was a credible BBC eyewitness that said a tank fired its main cannon into an ambulance trying to rescue the dead. There was little in the way of mercy on that day. They were literally washing gore into the gutters afterwards.
This. The more power is concentrated the more heinous the actions typically become. A warlord slaughtering families or a village is a tragedy. A despot committing genocide is a Tuesday.
Here is an archived version of an imgur album with a lot more pictures, including the days leading up to the attack on the protesters and some descriptions of the historic and cultural context.
All of the above warnings about graphic content apply: violence, gore and death.
Tienanmen Square 1989
Everyone reading this needs to understand, when a modern-day tankie describes someone as a ‘liberal’, a term which they use pejoratively, it carries the same meaning as “bourgeouis liberalism” in this quote:
Before the Tiananmen Square protests of 1989, the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) was desperate to quash what they saw as “bourgeois liberalism,” a broad phrase suggesting several kinds of resistance to the government’s strict and repressive political doctrine.
These tankies would applaud the same kind of treatment for ‘liberals’ today as was given to the protesters in Tienanmen Square by the CCP in 1989.
The group of protesters remained steadfast, even in the face of annihilation. Shots rang out, innocents were struck, and people began to die. Nonetheless — there was power in numbers, and solidarity that allowed them to find courage — and thousands joined hands as bullets flew. “Students linked arms but were mown down,” wrote Donald. “APCs then ran over the bodies time and time again to make, quote ‘pie’ unquote, and remains collected by bulldozer.”
As if this wasn’t atrocious enough, the government’s criminal and brutal activity that day got even worse. With no regard for the families of these victims, not to mention their identities, what was left of them was disposed of — in an unspeakably callous manner.
“Remains incinerated and then hosed down drains,” Donald wrote.
These protesters were mostly college students and teachers who had the gall to object to the CCP’s authoritarianism.
Let them not be forgotten.
These tankies would applaud the same kind of treatment for ‘liberals’ today as was given to the protesters in Tienanmen Square by the CCP in 1989.
I mean, it’s right there, with 24 upvotes.
“TOTAL LIB-DEATH”
They defend the events at Tiananmin Square because it’s exactly what they want: the mass murder of people who disagree with them. “Denialism” is just a strategy to maintain the guise of moral superiority.
Funny since that phrase originates from the /pol/ meme “TND”.
I’ll let you guess what the N stands for.
Slur?
Slur.
This is one of those things that is an incredible tragedy that is terrible in so many ways but is somehow a meme.
It wasn’t a tragedy.
It was a crime.
It can be both
Elaborate.
