cut off all federal funding
let then secede
invade and retake them as a territory with no federal voting rights
make dc and puerto rico states
republicans never win again
Please stop I can only get so erect
Naw, split up the state into 4 states, with Houston, Austin, Dallas and San Antonio as capitals. Cut state lines and populations up to ensure that as the main city votes so goes the state.
That’d be 8 democratic senators.
Add DC, PR, American Virgin Islands American Samoa, Guam, Northern Mariana Islands and that’s potentially another 12.
Regardless of politics the territories, and DC, should have statehood and equal rights and representation as the rest of us or they should have independence. It’s part of our national identity. No more colonialism or secondclass sub citizens.
These dumb fucks can’t go a single winter or summer without their power grids going down and then begging for free money and help but they somehow thing they can be their own country? Fuck it, let em try and then they will find out that the Mexican cartels don’t fuck around.
These jackanapes get to yammering about secession every few years but haven’t actually done anything about it for decades. It’s all performative.
the nihilist in me really wants to see texas attempt this.
confederates === domestic terrorists. lets act accordingly.
Ah ha, I found a JS dev lmfao
Normal languages: “does this equal that?”
JS: “does this REALLY equal that, or just ‘equal’ that?”
JS comparing a string and some random number: “ah, close enough probably”
Beats having explicit null checks everywhere.
the nihilist in me really wants to see texas attempt this.
Just to get rid of Abbot and Cruz it would be worth it.
Not just confederates, it’s the current MAGA “Republican” party. CPAC, Dallas, TX, Aug. 4-7, 2022:
The persecution fetish is bigger in Texas.
Might not be domestic for long. Plus I hear they’ve got oil! Not sure they’ve thought this through.
I doubt this whole display is anything more than a distraction from the impending elections but I’m going to keep saying it anyway:
Please remember there are sane, reasonable, nonconservative people living here without a good way out. We’re not the enemy.
I don’t think Republican leadership is going to like losing 40 electoral votes.
money will drop him so fast he’s struggling to act out this bad
When Republican governors try to become mini-dictators… that does not bode well for America.
Ah so he’s taking a page from Ron DeSantis and plan to lose on multiple fronts.
The old Nazi split, the shitzkrieg
If Trump loses the 2024 election because Texas temporarily secedes, taking its 38 Republican electoral votes with it, I might die from the schadenfreude.
1.Just give Texas back to Mexico.
2.Reverse UNO
3.White Republicans are now the immigrants on the wrong side of the border
4.Enjoy some queso
Mexico 2 days later: Amigo, please take these fuck faces back
Or cartel runs in and they have a lucrative cash for drugs trade, that they mostly funnel into other states for profit not seeing the irony in any if it…
probably quadrupling the length of border with Mexico.
the issue with that is that cartels like being paid for their products as much as any business- legitimate or otherwise. Texas won’t be able to pay when we remove them from the US banking system. there’s not enough cash to go around, and they’ll probably have to mint their own currency.
Which… the Cartel won’t be dumb enough to do business in… which means they’ll have to do business in stuff like gold or whatever else.
Guns
the cartels already have better guns than most texans, so, yeah.
Tesla becoming a mexican business lmao
👌chef’s kiss
Americans who move to other countries always call themselves expats since immigrants are “those other people”.
All the morons screaming about colonization aboard are already packing their bags to leave Texas right? RIGHT? California too, if they’re anything but sjw Jack offs.
I haven’t had an orgasm since 2017, but I think that would do it.
What happened in 2017
Their last orgasm obviously.
Obviously he’ll flip into “federal authority is absolute” against states like California if a Republican (read: Trump) is president.
The only legitimate authority is the party I’m a member of.
No need to wait, look at what they did for the article 14 stuff. They don’t give a fuck about anything unless it somehow directly impacts them, states rights included
Can we just acknowledge that this is unhinged? Biden has the strongest border policies ever implemented by a Democrat. This just shows that there is no compromise possible with these traitors. They will never admit you made a step in their direction, only demand more and more and more until you’re just doing their bidding.
This is truly the way of extremists and terrorists, they demand the country be run to their preferences, democratic systems be damned.
It really is sad to see so many Americans captivated by misinformation that they’ve convinced themselves is real. Abandoning science, reason, discussion, compromise, even tolerance. I try to keep my bloodthirst in check but after years upon years of them growing like a cancer, forming cult-like militia, becoming full blown domestic terrorists threatening high treason, it can’t be tolerated any further. It was cute when it was just posturing, symbolizing they were unhappy with the system at large and wanted to fuck with it a little.
Now it’s spiraled out of control. Now the punishment for treason should be felt. Either mercifully with the arrest of Abbott or vengefully with the GOP Texans being buried under the new courthouse.
Is there somewhere I can read about Biden’s border policy compared to other Democrats? This is definitely something I’m totally uninformed about and I’d like to read up a bit, if you know of a good rundown.
Not really a rundown. Just years of paying attention. The basic thing is they aren’t recognizing the right to declare asylum after entering the country anymore. You have to wait in your home country or Mexico until your paperwork is processed. Of course that’s ridiculous considering how the cartels prey on the refugees and asking someone to stay in the country they are seeking asylum from.
A more cynical person might suggest they are doing this BECAUSE of that. Biden can’t run on the numbers if Texas keeps blocking action.
That’s not cynical, they’ve come right out and said this is what they’re doing. https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/4429211-romney-trump-border-bill-biden/
Brexit was so successful, it’s now time for Texit!
Stop threatening the rest of us with a good time
This Texan checked into it, and unfortunately we have no procedure for recalling our treasonous governor. At a minimum, he should be held in contempt of court and jailed. I would like to see a treason indictment.
just break the elevator in the state house
Unfortunately for us, people kept voting him into office even after he called the Texas guard to watch the US army with the Jade Helm panic that Russia started. Idk if they will ever vote him out
His last election was the most competitive of his career.
The public in general leans pro-choice, so Republicans are absolutely losing support with their insane anti-abortion policies even if it isn’t obvious yet.
He’s also been in national headlines a lot lately for his extremism. He has always been horrible, but he has never been so visible for it.
Next election, he will be hanging on by voter suppression, a wish, and a prayer.
What worries me though is why he’s gone off the deep end already if he still believes he needs to get re-elected…
there is- at the federal level some vague means of getting “congress” to do it. Victor Berger was removed by a vote of the full house (WI rep that was convicted improperly of espionage. he was part of the socialist party in 1919.) He was elected as a representative to the house (and the specific side of congress has jurisdiction over itself).
There’s nothing saying the senate, for example, couldn’t weigh in, declare him unfit and have him removed from his position. I have no idea how that would shake out… but given his announcement or declaration or whatever that was, that’s basically invalidating the US constitution… that is definitely insurrection against the US. The 14th amendment section 5 gives authority to soley Congress to enforce 14th’s section 3 (you know the insurrection clause).
I would expect that if the house of senate voted to remove him… then the shitheads in SCOTUS would say that it has to be unanimous with the house of reps. but it would be something more than what’s currently being done- which is nothing.
I have yet to see this mentioned in any of these threads, at least the ones that I have read. If Texas secedes or tries to, Republicans lose 38 seats in the House of Representatives and two Senate seats. This give the House to Democrats for the foreseeable future and Democrats an easier path to passing bills in the Senate. Not that Texas, Abbott, cares.
not to mention then they’ll be a country with oil within peacekeepin’ distance of the USA
Can anyone tell me how much of Texas’ oil production is offshore? Because the US would claim all of that on day one.
We’re going to have invade every 20 years to get rid of some horrible dictator or another.
Here’s hoping a congressman disappears him.
But seriously, there needs to be a mechanism for the feds to impeach a governor.
They have one now but it’s messy and stains the carpet.
They pee on it?
C’mon man, that rug really tied the room together!
Do I look like I’m governor?? The toilet seat is up!
That carpet is Persian! Irreplaceable what with there not being a Persia anymore.
Edit: misquote
I mean it goes without saying that you aren’t arguing this, but they will never secede. This is fodder for local politicking
if the secede their electoral votes shouldn’t count until congress passes a bill readmitting them. it’s only fair
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If it means Ted Cruz will be forced to fuck off, don’t keep us waiting.
God damn we can only hope
Hmmm… 🤔
“states have a right of self-defense, under Article 4, Section 4 and Article 1, Section 10, Clause 3 of the U.S. Constitution.”
https://constitutioncenter.org/the-constitution/full-text
Article 4, Section 4:
“The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.”
I don’t see a) anything there that defines “invasion” or b) grants the states the power to act if the United States chooses not to.
Article 1, Section 10, Clause 3:
"Section 10: Powers Denied to the States
No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any Duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay."
Again, “invaded”.
It’s pretty clear from section 10, since it’s also speaking of troops, ships of war, and engaging in war that it means MILITARY invasion, not an influx of citizen refugees.
Dictionaries at the time back up that reading:
Rich of them to quote the U.S. Constitution when they’re trying to leave - which would mean that they don’t recognize the U.S. Constitution for being a foreign entity.
It’s in the Constitution! Democrats can never be the government of any state, only Republicans can create a Republican form or government.
Checkmate liberals!
Abbott is so full of shit. Texas isn’t succeeding from anything.
Texas is neither succeeding nor seceding
Aren’t you for the freedom of self-determination?
