Keep in mind they’re sophists so it has to be a well-structured logical argument. I don’t know why I keep arguing with these kinds of people. Disclaimer: I’m pro-LGBT.

  • originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com
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    10 months ago

    ‘disease spreading’ is an incredibly low bar for morality… any and all human contact, likely, immoral

    this is just like the’ doesnt/cant lead to pregnancy’, ‘not the intended purpose’ justifications with extra steps, which make no sense in reality.

    you cannot logic someone out of a position they didnt logic themselves into… you have to know your words do not matter to these people.

      • Hyperreality@kbin.social
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        10 months ago

        Meh. Condoms break and won’t prevent crabs or warts.

        Then again, I contracted herpes as a never been kissed virgin. Bar or restaurant probably didn’t clean a glass properly, so I now occasionally have cold sores as do 70% of the population.

        That’s life. You can only manage the risks. Locking yourself up on the top floor of an abandoned hotel probably isn’t great for your health either.

  • betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    10 months ago

    Gather up the people making that ridiculous argument, put them in a shipping container and drop them in the ocean

    Reject the premise that disease and morality are in some way causally related. Once they make a claim close enough to reality to tell you what they’re really wrong about, start there.

    • otp@sh.itjust.works
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      10 months ago

      Spreading disease can be immoral, but when it comes to sex, that should be two properly-educated and consenting adults doing something that won’t affect anyone beyond the two of them.

      We can reassess the situation when diseases transmitted by gay sex are overwhelming hospitals.

      • tygerprints@kbin.social
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        10 months ago

        Homosexuality IS NOT IMMORAL and never could be. Only if all human sexuality is immoral, and it isn’t. Only a total uneducated idiotic piece of filth would ever say that homosexuality is immoral. It is not immoral. It never could be immoral.

        • otp@sh.itjust.works
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          10 months ago

          Yes, did you reply to the wrong comment? Lol

          I said “Spreading disease can be immoral”. Not that homosexuality can be immoral.

          • tygerprints@kbin.social
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            10 months ago

            I probably did respond to the wrong comment then - wouldnt be the first time. : / I was responding to the idea of sexuality of any kind being immoral - which is ridiculous. Willfully spreading disease WOULD be immoral in my opinion, including refusing to get COVID vaccinations every year.

  • Lafari@lemmy.worldOP
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    10 months ago

    They already conceded that hetero anal sex must also be considered immoral to maintain the view. Here’s what I’ve got; Anal isn’t a necessity. Homosexual people shouldn’t be framed as immoral simply for engaging in basic parts of life based on their sexual nature. Homosexuality isn’t inherently harmful and certainly not immoral. It’s not their fault for being the way they are, which isn’t wrong in any way, and it’s also possible to use protection to prevent STDs.