As a party, the Dems suck. Absolutely. And in the long-term, as an opposition party, they are not great.
That being said, are the non-voters and protest non-voters children? The nonsense I’m reading about non-voters not being “inspired” or not being “captured” by Democrats to convince them to vote against fascism sounds like a description of a salesman trying to sell products, not the either-or choice being given to every adult American, which is, as a citizen, their own goddamn responsibility to be party to.
A non-vote is still a vote. You don’t absolve yourself of the outcome by choosing not to participate, because if you can vote, you’re already participating.
There were three real options this past election: MAGA, Dems, and I-don’t-care-they’re-equally-bad. So yes, not voting when fascists win means you supported fascism.
Obviously that does not mean non-voters are solely to blame. Republicans accepted fascists, those that voted R chose fascists, Dems suck as a party, and non-voters sat back and allowed fascists to take power. On the list, non-voters are the least bad, certainly, but they still bear responsibility.
Arguing with me isn’t going to change anything. You should be arguing with the people that nominate establishment candidates.
Go ahead, blame me all you want; I genuinely don’t care. If you want me to get out and vote, then your neo-liberal, lesser-evil buddies need to be the ones who ‘fall in line.’
Every effort you spend in trying to get me to support establishment candidates is futile.
Lol this is not the flex that you think it is. This just shows the Dems that the left voter will never vote. So there is no reason to cater to them. And history plays this out, every time the Dems rely on the left voter, they don’t show up. At this point you’d be an absolute fool to cater to or rely on the left. The real futility here is ever thinking the left will ever show up, so what’s the point.
So pat yourself on the back on helping to move the overton window to the right. Yes you. Every single time you protest no vote.
Ok I really have to bow out of talking to you. Like you said it’s futile. PS look up what neoliberal means.
Neo-liberals become conservatives when their wealth is threatened.
It’s a two-pronged strategy that you’re supporting right now.
If more of you people directed your grievances towards the greedy scumbags that keep nominating establishment candidates, then we wouldn’t have this issue.
This is what nominating the lesser-evil got us.
As a party, the Dems suck. Absolutely. And in the long-term, as an opposition party, they are not great.
That being said, are the non-voters and protest non-voters children? The nonsense I’m reading about non-voters not being “inspired” or not being “captured” by Democrats to convince them to vote against fascism sounds like a description of a salesman trying to sell products, not the either-or choice being given to every adult American, which is, as a citizen, their own goddamn responsibility to be party to.
A non-vote is still a vote. You don’t absolve yourself of the outcome by choosing not to participate, because if you can vote, you’re already participating.
There were three real options this past election: MAGA, Dems, and I-don’t-care-they’re-equally-bad. So yes, not voting when fascists win means you supported fascism.
Obviously that does not mean non-voters are solely to blame. Republicans accepted fascists, those that voted R chose fascists, Dems suck as a party, and non-voters sat back and allowed fascists to take power. On the list, non-voters are the least bad, certainly, but they still bear responsibility.
You still don’t understand.
Arguing with me isn’t going to change anything. You should be arguing with the people that nominate establishment candidates.
Go ahead, blame me all you want; I genuinely don’t care. If you want me to get out and vote, then your neo-liberal, lesser-evil buddies need to be the ones who ‘fall in line.’
Every effort you spend in trying to get me to support establishment candidates is futile.
Lol this is not the flex that you think it is. This just shows the Dems that the left voter will never vote. So there is no reason to cater to them. And history plays this out, every time the Dems rely on the left voter, they don’t show up. At this point you’d be an absolute fool to cater to or rely on the left. The real futility here is ever thinking the left will ever show up, so what’s the point.
So pat yourself on the back on helping to move the overton window to the right. Yes you. Every single time you protest no vote.
Ok I really have to bow out of talking to you. Like you said it’s futile. PS look up what neoliberal means.
Sorry, I stopped reading after this. You’re clueless.
Gonna ignore you now. Have fun wasting your efforts doing the same thing expecting different results.
Ah the ‘lesser evil’ nonsense to make it sound like “b b b b b both sides same!”
Neo-liberals become conservatives when their wealth is threatened.
It’s a two-pronged strategy that you’re supporting right now.
If more of you people directed your grievances towards the greedy scumbags that keep nominating establishment candidates, then we wouldn’t have this issue.
I don’t expect you to do that, though.
Followed up by demonstrating you don’t know what neoliberal means. Ciao.