The march to Nazism takes another step

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      I have a feeling they’re going to define anyone who has a college degree and leans anywhere to the left of conservative extremism “low IQ trash”.

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        Yep, the Nazis defined socialists as degenerates, so I expect any sign of empathy to be seen as a sign of low IQ.

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          They’ve thought this for decades. Tradespeople have been resenting college nerds who don’t have common sense (funny thing is I’m both of those things). And the cheaters (like tax cheats and grifters) think that the rest of us are dumb for not cheating to get ahead.

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          I mean this is less of a “government funded” thing and more of a “you get it done or we cut your balls off ourselves”.

          And personally, I’m of the opinion that now that they want undesirable people sterilized, I won’t submit. The worst thing we can do right now is give them anything.

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        Yeah, that’s why they’re trying to make questioning Trump’s greatness a mental disorder. So they can identify us as irredeemable to dispose of us

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          Ironically, many of the Republican asshats have degrees, even from (gasp! shock! horror!) Ivy League schools…

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        I read the article. He defined it as people that like the Fast and the Furious franchise.

        I’m not entirely opposed to his suggestion.

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          He also attended a white nationalist rally that got him fired from his job as a Trump speech writer, suggested rewards for sterilization like “air jordans”, and a few more pieces that suggest he’s got a pretty easy way to determine who is “low iq” at a quick glance.

          He wants to euthanize non white people

          Edit: Sterilize, not euthanize. I’m sure he would hate to kill all of them

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            He wants to *sterilize people, not euthanize (according to the article). Maybe he wants to euthanize some people too (likely) but that’s not what the article is about. Euthanasia =/= sterilization.

            “Third world low iq sucker punch fights over nothing, with dumb animal spectators jumping up and down in excitement,” said Beattie. “The same low-IQ trash who watch the fast and furious franchise. Beginning to wish the whole population reduction conspiracy were true.”

            He’s describing MMA fans, and people (in the USA) that watch fast and the furious… Remember (last month) when Mango Mussolini went to UFC in FL? …yea, he’s hating on the voter base that got him where he is.

            He wants to offer air jordans to people that volunteer for vasectomies… uh, they can keep the shoes, but I’m down for more people that cannot afford vasectomies or people without health insurance (there’s an abundance) to get them.

            I understand the story that this article is attempting to illustrate, but you’re conflating things. Also, I’d hardly consider the Independent as a reputable source.

            Also… I’m getting a little bit tired of outrage that has no output. So this week we’re surprised and outraged about another white nationalist in this administration?

            :: yawn::

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          “Like” as in, present tense?

          I liked it as a kid but I think I outgrew it…so I guess I’m good?

          Doesn’t matter if you win by an inch or a mile…

          Ahh shit.

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      Most of Trump’s base was probably cheering him on until he got to this part:

      “The same low-IQ trash who watch the fast and furious franchise.”

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    One fucking month ago we, for the first time in human history, cured a genetic disease in a human at the DNA level, using gene editing techniques that fixed a 10-month-old’s liver specifically without altering the rest of his body’s DNA (thus preserving genetic diversity). Are we really going to start fucking genociding people while we stand at the very goddamn cusp of cleanly subduing genetic disorders?? And we’re going to fucking revive measles and polio while we’re at it?

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    Bold emphasis is mine

    But idea of offering** feral populations **financial incentives for voluntary sterilization is completely taboo.

    Wow, just wow.

    When a population gets feral, a little snip snip keeps things in control. Could offer incentives (Air Jordans, etc.).

    Sure… some new sneaks for never being able to procreate? Sounds legit (heavy /s obviously)

    I have a suspicion where this is being aimed at:

    It’s not politically correct to say, but low-IQ, low-impulse control populations lack higher reasoning and moral faculties - they require strict corporal punishment and threat of violence to function properly within a society.

    It’s the people RFK is targeting - people with Autism, ADHD, other neurodivergent conditions, the physically and mentally disabled. Cull the ones who are already “diseased” and leave the healthier ones to live one and procreate. At least that’s my suspicion here - basically they’re pushing the discourse towards an acceptance of some form of eugenics. It’s terrifying.

    The point in the last quote - ‘to function properly within a society’ is really a veiled form of saying - ‘you will work until you die in whatever way we see fit’.

    There’s a similar push in the UK to get disabled people into any job, seemingly regardless of suitability, workplace accommodations (despite there being legal requirements to make such things) - and the way this is being done is to effectively penalise them financially by sanctioning the disability allowances, refusing PIP (Personal Independence Payment) and forcing those with lifelong conditions to undergo a full review every year. This pretty much can starve out someone into finding a way to live that means the Government pays less and the quality of life the person has is drastically reduced owing to the various stressors inflicted on them. The whole thing is a shitshow and is being argued about a lot at the moment in our Government parties.

    Can disabled people work? For sure, and many do. Can all disabled people work? No, but the Government is going to make damn sure that you at least try, and if you fail, then find another job cause we ain’t supporting you now we know you can work regardless of how effective you are… From a Govt statement:

    We’re determined to fix the broken benefits system as part of our Plan for Change by reforming the welfare system and delivering proper support to help people get into work and get on at work, so we can get Britain working and deliver our ambition of an 80% employment rate.

    In other words, to “function properly within a society”.

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    Wait, wait, wait. I thought they were just bitching that we don’t have enough people, now they want mass sterilization? Can they make up their minds?

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    Just a quick reminder that the US Supreme Court affirmed the federal government’s right to sterilize citizens in Buck v. Bell and it’s never been walked back.

    So that’s cool.

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      It seems that Trump and Kennedy are going to lose their balls then. ✂️ A minute of silence. 😔

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        IQ tests don’t measure intelligence. It measures how good you are at passing an IQ test.

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          Every tests measures first and foremost how well one takes that test. There are many IQ tests with varying usefulness.

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            Nope. IQ measures how Western you are.

            We cannot test intelligence. That’s what the creator of the IQ test concluded after the eugenics championed their attempt to do so.

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              The problem is not so much the test itself, which can be useful sometimes, but the idea that ‘intelligence’ can be fully encapsulated by a single number that is both immutable and discrete.

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              Sorry, but that is only true for a narrow, archaic band of the term IQ. Though I admit that within that narrow interpretation, you’re right. But there have been many tests devised since then to attempt to address those concerns.

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                  Maybe, in varying degrees, but also some success. Though intelligence itself is tough to pin down in the broader sense, there are some aspects of the measurement that are useful in both clinical settings and in research.

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            It’s not. All you can do is measure culturally relevant knowledge. That’s what we learned

            • That’s true. How can we possibly measure logic if logic follows the characteristics of 1900’s classical logic? Does that translate to real intelligence or the ability to get things done? I don’t think so. What if the person just don’t want to get a IQ test? All the more, what if their qualities are not measured by finding out how many balls are inside a cube? I think classical logic doesn’t translate to intelligence.

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      If there is a civil war, I look forward to shitty rulings like Buck vs Bell to be overturned by the good guys. This kind of shit is a black mark on human decency.

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          I am not certain of victory at all, it is just that surrendering in advance has a guaranteed outcome. “Elbows up” has risks, but gives a chance for things to turn out decently.

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      Back in the day, eugenics in the US was most enthusiastically promoted by the progressives such as the family planning movement, early feminists and the temperance movement (and those movements overlapped and allied with each other at times).

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      The problem is they can’t find enough racists who happen to have that background… So south Africa white people who used to have servants is where they’re at. I got German, English, Italian, Netherlands and Spanish friends and they are very nice people.