So there’s absolutely no need for Musk, right? Why then there’s not tens of other successful private space companies with reusable rockets? Workers don’t work in other companies?
Musk provides the Money required to fulfill the M-C-M’ circuit, by which a sum of Money M is turned into a Commodity C which is then turned into a larger sum of Money M’. SpaceX is more of an RnD company than anything else at this point, so the required M is very high for a currently negative M’. Eventually, the goal is for SpaceX to turn profitable once it finishes enough of the initial design phase.
The thing is, anyone can provide M. The fact that Musk provides M for SpaceX does not mean there is a talent or skill being deployed by Musk that makes him any more special than anyone else. It’s the Engineers that are designing the rockets, after all, not Musk.
Further still, there does not at all need to be an individual who provides M. The workers can collectively own Capital and vote on managers and how they wish to direct production, all without a petite Dictator, ie a Capitalist, who stands on top of the Workers for the pursuit of profit.
Another easy to envision example is 2 factories. One version is owned by a Capitalist, and the Workers have little to no power. The other is owned by the Workers, who elect a manager. Both have the same amount of labor (including management), but the latter example has a more equitable distribution of power via ownership.
Is any of this confusing for you? I can elaborate, if you wish.
This is the degeneracy I was talking about. So if Musk isn’t important, where are other, more or equally successful Musk-less space companies? How come SpaceX was about to close down after several failed launches and only Musk was able to find the fund to continue on? Why haven’t workers chipped in?
The degeneracy of communist way of thinking is that “capitalists” are not just evil, but also unnecessary. If the idiots would put all the efforts into actually controlling the corporations, making them follow the laws and would actually work on pushing better laws not lobbied by the corporations, first of all, I wouldn’t call them idiots, but also the world would’ve been a better place. Instead, we have neo-marxists citing a century old bullshit.
wtf are you implying? Slur is a slur, I’m not into eugenics or whatever you imagined. Although degenerate communists should all be sent to North Korea - land of the free and equal people, the best country in the world.
Musk is only “important” because we allow a society where individuals can amass vast amounts of Capital and rent-seek. He is a beneficiary of an apartheid emerald mine, that’s why he’s special, born with a silver spoon.
Workers struggle to chip in because Capitalist states are designed to be as comfortable to Capitalists as possible, as Capitalists have outsized influence. Worker co-operatives, ie Socialist businesses, have higher rates of stability and employee satisfaction, but are difficult to start as there isn’t developed infrastructure for that.
Capitalists aren’t a group of evil people that are powerful because they are evil, that’s a child’s view of Marxism. Capitalists are a class, that share similar class interests and as such can act in a way that protects their own interests without individually collaborating. Capitalists themselves are unnecessary, unless you happen to think that Worker Co-operatives don’t exist.
Communists and Socialists cannot control corporations, that’s an absurd idea. The closest would be Unionization, which I support heavily and donate to strike funds when I can. The idea that workers can simply lobby for better policy though is an extremely naive view of how the electoral process works. Perhaps on a local level, yes, but when you have to combat the media’s smear campaigns and work against the overwhelming forces of Capital, it’s much more effective to gain grassroots progress.
Also, it’s cringe as fuck to call this “degeneracy,” it reeks of major neckbeard energy.
So there’s absolutely no need for Musk, right? Why then there’s not tens of other successful private space companies with reusable rockets? Workers don’t work in other companies?
Musk provides the Money required to fulfill the M-C-M’ circuit, by which a sum of Money M is turned into a Commodity C which is then turned into a larger sum of Money M’. SpaceX is more of an RnD company than anything else at this point, so the required M is very high for a currently negative M’. Eventually, the goal is for SpaceX to turn profitable once it finishes enough of the initial design phase.
The thing is, anyone can provide M. The fact that Musk provides M for SpaceX does not mean there is a talent or skill being deployed by Musk that makes him any more special than anyone else. It’s the Engineers that are designing the rockets, after all, not Musk.
Further still, there does not at all need to be an individual who provides M. The workers can collectively own Capital and vote on managers and how they wish to direct production, all without a petite Dictator, ie a Capitalist, who stands on top of the Workers for the pursuit of profit.
Another easy to envision example is 2 factories. One version is owned by a Capitalist, and the Workers have little to no power. The other is owned by the Workers, who elect a manager. Both have the same amount of labor (including management), but the latter example has a more equitable distribution of power via ownership.
Is any of this confusing for you? I can elaborate, if you wish.
This is the degeneracy I was talking about. So if Musk isn’t important, where are other, more or equally successful Musk-less space companies? How come SpaceX was about to close down after several failed launches and only Musk was able to find the fund to continue on? Why haven’t workers chipped in?
The degeneracy of communist way of thinking is that “capitalists” are not just evil, but also unnecessary. If the idiots would put all the efforts into actually controlling the corporations, making them follow the laws and would actually work on pushing better laws not lobbied by the corporations, first of all, I wouldn’t call them idiots, but also the world would’ve been a better place. Instead, we have neo-marxists citing a century old bullshit.
What should be done with the degenerates?
wtf are you implying? Slur is a slur, I’m not into eugenics or whatever you imagined. Although degenerate communists should all be sent to North Korea - land of the free and equal people, the best country in the world.
Musk is only “important” because we allow a society where individuals can amass vast amounts of Capital and rent-seek. He is a beneficiary of an apartheid emerald mine, that’s why he’s special, born with a silver spoon.
Workers struggle to chip in because Capitalist states are designed to be as comfortable to Capitalists as possible, as Capitalists have outsized influence. Worker co-operatives, ie Socialist businesses, have higher rates of stability and employee satisfaction, but are difficult to start as there isn’t developed infrastructure for that.
Capitalists aren’t a group of evil people that are powerful because they are evil, that’s a child’s view of Marxism. Capitalists are a class, that share similar class interests and as such can act in a way that protects their own interests without individually collaborating. Capitalists themselves are unnecessary, unless you happen to think that Worker Co-operatives don’t exist.
Communists and Socialists cannot control corporations, that’s an absurd idea. The closest would be Unionization, which I support heavily and donate to strike funds when I can. The idea that workers can simply lobby for better policy though is an extremely naive view of how the electoral process works. Perhaps on a local level, yes, but when you have to combat the media’s smear campaigns and work against the overwhelming forces of Capital, it’s much more effective to gain grassroots progress.
Also, it’s cringe as fuck to call this “degeneracy,” it reeks of major neckbeard energy.
the term quite literally describes what’s going on with neo-marxism or whatever ideas you’re pushing