• Honytawk@lemmy.zip
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    3 months ago

    Meaning solar energy produces 30 gigawats per 2 minutes?

    Not bad, should build even more.

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      3 months ago

      He may be counting the 1 kW per square metre of sunlight that reaches the ground, not just the fraction we turn to electricity

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      When there is only 50% totality, photovoltaic also makes 50% less. You just do not notice it when looking around, because your eyes adjust to the changed brightness. So a photovoltaic produces less for a longer time. What I found, for the 2017 eclipse, was that around 16GW were impacted with at most a reduction of 5GW in one moment.

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      Well if I’m doing anything, it means that I’m functionally immortal, and given 5 billion years, I would very likely have figured out how to get my ass to a safer planet. So I’ll probably raise a toast to the passing of the home world, then move on with my day.

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        Worst case scenario you take the slow way to another planet. The only limiting factor depends on just how immortal you are. If you don’t need to eat or drink, then you could travel to another planet right now with current technology.

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            You wouldn’t be experiencing more than you wanted. You’d be frozen if still made of meat, or running at whatever subjective speed (probably pretty slowly given the lack of solar power between stars) if you’re in silicon

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    3 months ago

    had to look this idiot up and to the surprise of nobody… he’s a right wing fossil fuel shill.

    "…And now they are going after agriculture and of course, denim, which is cotton. Cotton also is deeply rooted in Jim Crow and racism, so that’s another reason to get rid of cotton. But also they want to get rid of cotton in denim because everything causes climate change until they just eliminate people writ large. And then there’ll be no more climate change when we’re all dead, which we may be from the eclipse in a couple of hours. Who knows? When we’re all dead, there’ll be no more climate worries.”

    this is the sewerage that seems to flow from his brain.

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      Yeah, the “PTF” at the end of his username stands for “Power The Future”, the name of his special interest group, which is doublespeak for"do everything possible to avoid acknowledging the climate crisis and the role fossil fuels have played in getting us here."

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      The people saying “we’re destroying our planet and need to stop” want to see all humans go extinct but the people saying “nah oil belongs in the ocean” have our best interest in mind? Well I fully believe him.

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        The people saying “we’re destroying our planet and need to stop” want to see all humans go extinct

        See this is a little bit of a mischaracterization - the Earth will likely recover from climate change. The human race are the sensitive species here.

        We need to rethink our rhetoric to make it clear slowing climate change is for the benefit of humans, not “the earth”

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          You’re right I forget people don’t realize destroying the planet is like burning your own house down but your house will be fine and you’ll die.

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        3 months ago

        if you can actually stand the insane levels of smarm and bullshit

        Fox Across America w/ Jimmy Failla - April 8

        seek to 1:42:17 for the disgorgement of this priceless nugget. if you skip around his segment you will also find the usual harrasment of Greta Thunberg and all things sane - but I would not wish to inflict listening to this dreck on anyone.

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      I guess the sun coming up tomorrow isn’t guaranteed for him since he’s all-in on fossil fuels that will destroy the planet anyway.

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      also hot take: denim is just a shit product.

      It’s the modern era, im sure we can produce MUCH more resilient fabrics and cloth items than denim.

  • Rozaŭtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    Yes, Daniel, a few minutes of eclipse happening every couple years renders solar completely useless. Let’s just keep burning the dead dinosaur juice.

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      every couple years

      On average it takes about 375 years for an eclipse to happen again in the same spot so it’ll be a while before the US loses solar energy from an eclipse.

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      Not that I approve the use of dead dino juice, but in theory we can at least make more of that. Coal is done. Once we use it up, we cannot make more of the stuff, since it’s what happened when the trees didn’t have bacteria that could break them down. They damn near caused a climate crisis with their own corpses.

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      Don’t you know? We’re going to have eclipses every day now, and that means solar power will be ineffective everywhere for all time over 2 hours of reduced output

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      I have no idea about the actual number, but saying the power is decreased by 30 GW does make sense, though… Of course it is not energy, but they might not have meant “solar energy” in the sense of a physical quantity. The sentiment is bullshit of course.

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      ok so technically, a watt is directly convertable to a joule, which is a unit of energy. So he isn’t wrong. But he is also wrong because he is using name plate production capacity, rather than the total produced capacity, that or he is simply fucking up the numbers. But lets be honest, homie is NOT doing the math.

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          yes, and this twitter post, (or wherever it comes from) is definitely not representative of the original sites layout in any substantial manner.

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        A watt is a joule per second. It is not “directly convertable” any more than mile is the not a speed just because you can divide it by an hour.

        Watts are power, the rate at which you can work. Joules are units of energy, how much work you can do.

        He is not fucking up the numbers. He is fucking up the units…and so are you

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          in this scenario it wouldn’t be speed, though, it would be speed over time. Speed is velocity.

          Watts are just joules but arbitrarily defined. Joules are a unit of total energy. A collective amount of work potential. Watts are an in situ measurement of those joules doing work.

          If we want to talk about confusing units, W and VA are the units to be talking about.

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        A watt is a joule per second. It is not “directly convertable” any more than mile is the not a speed just because you can divide it by an hour.

        Watts are power, the rate at which you can work. Joules are units of energy, how much work you can do.

        He is not fucking up the numbers. He is fucking up the units…and so are you.

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      Yes let’s not invest in green energy because checks notes once every 20 years we will lose a fraction of a percentage of solar energy for about 4 minutes.

      Also not for nothing but wind energy actually picks up during that time and generally for a few days before and after too.

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      Or even just transport it over large distances. Oh well, guess we’ll just be stuck using candles forever.

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        Not even large distances. From some quick googling, the umbra is only 100 to 160 km wide. For everywhere else, it would be the equivalent of a cloudy day. And this only lasts for minutes.

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      This is unironically the standard corporate response to any temporary slowing of growth.

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        Why wouldn’t it be? They already took the subsidy and got the green washing. They can switch back to the grid and move it to the expense line on the P&L. And sell the hardware to recoup the difference in cost the subsidy didn’t cover.

        You can’t just wait for government funds to come to you. You have to take it before your competition does. And if you exhaust the funds before they or anyone else can take advantage, you look better to the market. Stock price go up.