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- Greta did get a nomination, just not for director.
- Margot didn’t, but America did.
- Ryan Gosling was the best part of Barbie, partly because of the writing which, again, WAS nominated.
- This is not “the patriarchy;” it was a really strong year for those two categories.
but America did
What does this mean?
America Ferrera is an actress in the movie.
I guess I was a little too patriotic in mind there 😅.
This is kind of stupid tbh. Margot and Greta are NOT competing against Ryan. They’re competing against other females. This is because of this thing called “categories”.
Ryan getting nominated has NOTHING to do with this. It’s not like Ryan got nominated but they didn’t because he took their place.
This is happening because of the absolute flood of female centric characters and movies that came out recently. There’s too much competition. And much to the “feminists” dismay, Barbie is actually mid compared to the other movies and actresses.
There was 1 female director nominated.
What percentage of directors are female?
I feel like it should be 50% as they make up just over half of the US population.
I could only quickly get statistics for 2019.
https://womenandhollywood.com/resources/statistics/
On the top 100 grossing films of 2019, women represented:
10.7% of directors 19.4% of writers 24.3% of producers 70.4% of casting directors
But it’s not 50%. The goal of equity and equality is laudable, but it doesn’t reflect reality
Right, but it is important to understand the origin of those differences.
They could be prohibition, straight discrimination, social stigma, culture or personal preference. And these are usually linked together and evolve over time. Once prohibition is abolished, discrimination begins. Once discrimination is abolished, social stigma remains… It’s like decaying radioactive elements.
But yeha, if there are 10% female directors and 10% of the winners were female, sounds like there’s no discrimination there. Anyways, even if percentages don’t match it’s important to go in and check if the decisions were fair. What if the 10% of female directors are really really bad for the movies released that year?
Too many variables. Things like these require statistical analysis, social analysis, artistic analysis… Pretty complex. I don’t know.
It feels like you’re saying there should be more. I have no idea who’s been nominated, nor do I know most of the films that came out last year, so I’m out of the loop and would like to know if you have any female director movies you’d recommend in place of who’s been nominated.
Barbie was a cultural phenomenon so I would say Greta should at least be nominated. Openheimer was an ok movie in my eyes I didn’t see any of the others. I don’t personally think Barbie was a great movie not a bad movie but more like a good movie. The fact it gave a voice to so many women should mean something.
You said it, it was a cultural phenomenom, not a great movie. Those are two very separate, very different things. That does not mean that the director of the movie was great. It’s more closely related to what Barbie already means (socially) and the marketing campaign.
But why was openheimer nominated, why was Ryan gosling nominated, why were so many movies nominated, not because they’re great acting or writing or movies but because the impact they have on society.
Ok. Which directors do you think were snubbed?
I’m responding to op saying greta was beat out by other females. This is factually wrong since there’s only one other female director.
Awesome, thanks for making that clear. Now, which other females do you think should’ve been nomimated? Because if there aren’t any, she was simply beat out by other directors.
I think Greta should have been nominated. I don’t really understand what point you are trying to make. Did you read the original comment where women are getting passed over but men are getting congratulated for theirs and it’s mimicking the Barbie storyline?
They literally compete in different categories and an actress from Barbie did get nominated. The ones that didn’t weren’t snubbed, other women got their place because they were better. Simple as that.
Men getting credit for women’s accomplishments is the plot of barbie? I thought it was about how expectations and rules for gender identity and roles hurts everyone. That then expands on how women specifically feel a unique pressure to be an impossible ideal of everything all at once.
No, the plot is barbie not getting an oscar nomination while Ken did
Honestly the Lead Actress Category was stacked this year. Emma Stone played a very similar role but was far more complex. Why are people also forgetting that America Ferrera was also nominated ? Best Director is also a smaller pool than Best Picture where it was nominated. It looks bad on optics but if people actually watched all the movies they would know that each of the actresses nominated deserved it . It’s not like they gave the nomination to a man lol
Honestly, it doesn’t make sense for any of them to get a nom. The film was good, it was enjoyable, but it wasn’t an Oscar film. It wasn’t Gerwig’s best work and it wasn’t Robbie’s best performance. Despite Gosling being one of the best parts of the movie, the pickings for best supporting must have been slim for that to get him a nom for that role.
gosling shouldn’t have gotten it either
Honestly Barbie just wasn’t a good movie and it really shouldn’t have gotten any nominations
It was over hyped and it was trash marketing for Matel.
And if you guys watched the movie it literally ended with Ryan gosling learning absolutely no lessons and just being like oh ok I can act like a dick and I’ll still get what I want?
Killers of the flower moon was far far better than both Oppenheimer and Barbie. Honestly don’t think Oppenheimer should have received so many nominations either.
Greta is the snub, Margot did a good job but nothing stellar. Ryan Gosling stole every scene he was in.
Edit: and the meme actually ignores that the plot is actually gender neutral. It applies to everyone, not just Barbie.
It was Ken’s movie and Barbie was only starring in it.
He showed us all we’re Kenough.
I think there were a couple bits about women in particular
Margot did a good job but nothing stellar
I kinda thought the writers made her character meh on purpose to show young girls that while stereotypical Barbie is a cool toy, she’s not really someone they should aspire to be
What actresses got nominated? You realize it might be possible there were better actresses from other movies?
And maybe Ryan was a lot better than most other actors.
Strong performances this year:
Nominees:
Annette Bening - Nyad
Lily Gladstone - Killers of the Flower Moon
Sandra Hüller - Anatomy of a Fall
Carey Mulligan - Maestro
Emma Stone - Poor Things
It’s like people making the complaint forgot that there were other movies with women in them.
I’m surprised that Margot Robbie gag account on lemmy hasn’t rung in on this post. Or are they back to obsessing about android phones again? WAKE UP, BOT!
What do you mean gag account that’s actually her.
ummm…source?
it has her name right there
As someone that never saw the movie. All the clips, gifs and memes people make about it are the Ken scenes. Nobody talks about barbie presumably because her character and performance were good, but just kinda safe, middle of the road stuff.
No
Maybe he’s a better actor.
Silence!
Movie is made. Women is good but meh. Man is excellent.
“Hey that guy was excellent”
Omg that’s so sexist! If you wasn’t sexist you would automatically say that the women is better than the man.
In case you’re in any doubt, people are downvoting you for your atrocious framing, obvious victim complex, and general cuntiness. The fact that most of your posts are whining about whateverthefuck woke means is just confirmation that the worms have eaten your brain.
I’m just echoing the other comment. The worms have eat your brain.
Maybe if it had a better plot in the first place, it would have attracted more awards. This movie will be forgotten in a decade or less.
