Last month, the administration said the U.S. will let up to 360,000 people per year enter the country from four countries. A lawsuit filed Tuesday claims the policy is illegal.
What are “illegals”? I’m fairly certain ‘illegal’ is an adjective but you and the headline appear appear to be incorrectly using it as a countable noun.
illegal
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noun
sometimes disparaging + offensive
: a person who enters or lives in a country without the documentation required for legal entry or residence
Easy it is a label to describe immigration status, like citizen, permanent resident, temporary nonimigrant workers (migrant),…
Immigrating into a country illegally means that person is guess what an illegal immigrant or illegal for short. Your negative views of the word illegal don’t change their status.
Illegals is just shortened illegal immigrant, just like temporary nonimigrant workers are called migrants.
They are migrants because they migrate. They aren’t “illegals” because irrespective of the status of their presence according to those that claim dominion of the land they are on they are not themselves illegal.
Criminals deserve basic human rights too or all anything a tyrannical government has to do is define you as “illegal” and they can carry you off never to be seen again. With those rights ought to come at least the minimal respect a human life deserves.
Not according to the left. Remember when Trump caught Covid and the left wished him death? Or when his brother died and the left cheered?
What relation does your mental conception of what some nebulous “the left” did-or-did-not do have to the discussion we are having here in c/conservative about whether the use of dehumanizing terms to refer to human beings is laudable?
Further, is wishing that someone you perceive as having an immense power and direct negative impact on you and your community would lose that power—even via dying—really comparable to dehumanizing an entire class of people?
Further, is wishing that someone you perceive as having an immense power and direct negative impact on you and your community would lose that power—even via dying—really comparable to dehumanizing an entire class of people?
Yes. Trump didn’t impact your life in a negative way, especially when compared to illegals.
Either everyone has value or they don’t. Don’t claim higher ground and then say everyone but Trump as it makes you look like a chump.
Yes. Trump didn’t impact your life in a negative way, especially when compared to illegals.
Since you don’t know the immigration policies where I am I can’t comprehend how you are able to claim that assertion.
Either everyone has value or they don’t. Don’t claim higher ground and then say everyone but Trump as it makes you look like a chump.
Again, kindly point to where I have used dehumanizing language to refer to trump here.
I don’t believe I even personally wished his death when I pointed out hypothetical third parties you brought up potentially doing so was not comparable to striping a class of people of personhood through the language used to refer to them.
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What are “illegals”? I’m fairly certain ‘illegal’ is an adjective but you and the headline appear appear to be incorrectly using it as a countable noun.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/illegal
Ooooo, OP is being a bigot? That’s unfortunate. Here I was giving benefit of the doubt.
In your rush to win the most outraged contest you missed the word sometimes.
Can you explain how referring to a human being as “an illegal” can ever not be derogatory? 🤔
Easy it is a label to describe immigration status, like citizen, permanent resident, temporary nonimigrant workers (migrant),…
Immigrating into a country illegally means that person is guess what an illegal immigrant or illegal for short. Your negative views of the word illegal don’t change their status.
Nobody’s trying to say they aren’t illegal immigrants. But using derogatory terms is unnecessary and won’t bring a lot of people to your side.
Illegals is just shortened illegal immigrant, just like temporary nonimigrant workers are called migrants. The negative connotation is yours.
They are migrants because they migrate. They aren’t “illegals” because irrespective of the status of their presence according to those that claim dominion of the land they are on they are not themselves illegal.
It isn’t being used that way (to describe a status). It is being used to describe a person as “illegal”.
A person being documented or not by a group which claims political authority over a geographic area does not make that person illegal.
It’s no different than calling a person a citizen. Your inability to understand the definition of illegal does not change its definition.
A citizen is a thing a person can be. It’s also a noun.
“Illegal” is not a thing a person can be.
Actions can be against laws but humans cannot.
Its a little rude but these are illegal immigrants we’re talking about. They dont deserve a lot of respect.
Criminals deserve basic human rights too or all anything a tyrannical government has to do is define you as “illegal” and they can carry you off never to be seen again. With those rights ought to come at least the minimal respect a human life deserves.
Theres a hell of a difference between rude namecalling and not respecting basic human rights.
And watching anyone use one to chip away at the other is tiring.
What basic human rights are you talking about?
You don’t think all humans are worthy of dignity and respect?
Some would consider that terrible of you.
Not according to the left. Remember when Trump caught Covid and the left wished him death? Or when his brother died and the left cheered?
What relation does your mental conception of what some nebulous “the left” did-or-did-not do have to the discussion we are having here in c/conservative about whether the use of dehumanizing terms to refer to human beings is laudable?
Further, is wishing that someone you perceive as having an immense power and direct negative impact on you and your community would lose that power—even via dying—really comparable to dehumanizing an entire class of people?
Yes. Trump didn’t impact your life in a negative way, especially when compared to illegals.
Either everyone has value or they don’t. Don’t claim higher ground and then say everyone but Trump as it makes you look like a chump.
Since you don’t know the immigration policies where I am I can’t comprehend how you are able to claim that assertion.
Again, kindly point to where I have used dehumanizing language to refer to trump here.
I don’t believe I even personally wished his death when I pointed out hypothetical third parties you brought up potentially doing so was not comparable to striping a class of people of personhood through the language used to refer to them.