I’m not sure if anyone cares about an update, but I wanna just vent a bit.
I got the email (as shown in the screenshot) on June 25 very late at night.
Welp, I filed a Chargeback immedialy upon reading that. Guess that’s one store I can’t go to anymore… 🤷♂️
Still have yet to hear back from the bank on their process, but they say they’ll “temporarily credit the balance” while they “investigate”.
If my Bank decides to screw with me, the next update is probably gonna be in “c/ActuallyInfuriating” (I hope everything goes through fine, fingers crossed)
I did some online searching, and found like a few different posts from Reddit with others saying they got the same “completed investigation… unable to provide refund or replacement” bullshit.
They didn’t even give me a chance to send the video evidence. The rep on the phone said they would “contact me there are any updates or request further information”, but didn’t tell me where to send the video to. Nor did anyone contacted me to request it.
What I think happened with the so-called “investigation” is that, BestBuy just deferred it to Doordash, and they must’ve looked at the picture taken by the driver and just sided with their driver to protect their bottom line, and BestBuy just accepted that as an explanation.
Pictures are stationary lmfao. That proves nothing. Only that the package was at the door (which was actually a neighbor’s door btw), not that the driver didn’t just snatched it immediately after.
Tbh, I doubt things would change much even if they got the video, they don’t take this seriously at all. They would’ve just said the video was blurry and deny refund.
Btw: I ended up ordering a different laptop from Amazon and they shipped with UPS and it arrived safely, with all security seals intact. I don’t like how Amazon is taking over everything and have become monopolistic, but at least their stuff actually arrives…
Best Buy customer service is 1/10. I’ve pretty much stopped using them since 2000. Seems like they haven’t gotten any better.
I really don’t know how we got to a stage where delivery companies can just throw something in the general direction of your house and call it “delivered”.
This is why everything should be bought with credit card, because then the contract is between them and the store, and they’ve certainly got better lawyers than you. Chargebacks scare most shops into just sending another.
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Credit Card Charge back.
They already did. See the top of their post
I made the mistake of buying a 14tb external drive there that I needed that day and couldn’t afford to wait since I had a drive failing. Little did I know they dropped their return policy to 15 days but even bringing it back on day 8 after the drive burned up from overheating from copying 14tb of shit they rejected it and said that it was “all scratched up” because it has the crappy piano black finish you can scratch with your nail.
Got it replaced through the manufacturer and pretty much opted to never go back to a best buy after that. Used to be one of my favorite stores but all the anti consumer bullshit is driving it into the ground. Made a minor issue way more pain than it ever needed to be
Best buy had one of the lowest lows and best recoveries I had ever seen while working there. The new French CEO made it about customer service, and I saw people and teens who had never considered going to a best buy start going. Stock price went up, people were happy.
Then the board ousted him a few years ago and made it all about profits, going right back to where they were in the downward spiral, completely unaware of the irony. I hope they fail now. They could have come out on top but greed took over again.
Terrible, terrible place.
I was so much happier when I realized that Staples had almost as much tech stuff. Staples staff answers all my dumb questions clearly and never tries to oversell.
Or if you’re in Canada: London Drugs actually has decent service in their computer dept
Frequent sales and stock too
Seconded. This seems like a gamers nexus story ready to happen.
Send your story and video to some of the tech press. I’d bet someone picks it up and Best Buy suddenly gives you whatever you want to make it right.
Post the video to the internet. Explain what it is make sure to credit the two companies for their involvement. Don’t stop at one post and hope it catches on.
That’s messed up. Just on the basis of it being a picture of a different door is grounds for a refund, that clearly shows they did not deliver it to the address they were paid to deliver it to. Super frustrating and I hope it all gets worked out for you.
Amazon stuff sometimes arrives. For instance, it’s going on 7 months by now I think and they still haven’t found my camera.
This is the sad reality of every company everywhere trying to turn their delivery operation into a “gig” position. Amazon does it, too. Their delivery contractors-who-are-totally-not-employees steal valuable items from deliveries all the time.
Anyway, you are certain to win your chargeback. Banks side with their cardholders more often than not, and Best Buy is going to have to provide proof positive that you received your item. “We handed it off to Doordash and then washed our hands of it” is not going to cut the mustard, there.
(We have to deal with chargebacks in my business, too. Defending ourselves is a pain in the ass because we have to provide indisputable documentation that the client’s order was fulfilled. The issuing bank always starts from the default position of their cardholder being a saint and all retail businesses automatically being scammers. A small subset of people will fraudulently dispute a charge for a big ticket purchase just because they feel this is a way to weasel out of paying for it, and usually they’ve been emboldened by the fact that they’ve tried it before and gotten away with it.)
The crap leave it on the doorstep and hope no one nicks it delivery wasn’t a thing in my country until amazon made it a thing. Don’t make out they’re the good guys. They’re absolutely not.
Seems like you’re in the UK too.
Yeah, this was never a thing until Amazon made it one.
Thankfully, the law is very unambiguous about this, and if a parcel is left outside and then stolen before it gets into your hands (unless you specifically asked for it to be left outside) then you are entitled to a refund or replacement.
Amazon play the numbers game and figure that replacing x number of packages costs less than needing their drivers to bring all the undeliverable packages back and try again a different day.
It’s not a cool precedent though and I very much dislike it being normalised.
And when I order laptops from Amazon, they generally send them UPS and make me sign for them. Pretty much anything expensive I’ve had to sign for. Chargeback should be ezpz for OP, though they may want to file a police report (can’t recall the first thread, if they did or not).
Have you thought about sending this story with the video to local news? I’m sure they will love it and negative publicity will force BB to resolve it.
“We investigated ourselves and found we have no wrongdoing”
“the result of the investigation is that you owe us money”
Did you report doordash to the police?
This does seem like an important step. Like yeah, absolutely report this to the vendor but a theft also occurred so at least get a file going. Providing a police file # might have been enough to get them to refund as well
For every person like you that won’t take the shit, there are many more that will just give up. Just like unemployment and insurance claims - denial is the first step in protecting the bottom line.
If nobody accepted such bollocks, it would be more economical to actually investigate, provide service & improve processes - rather than trying to bin complaints at the first hurdle.
Prime (lol) example over here is with Amazon not making it easy to return shit after 30 days, by hiding all the easy return options at that point. You can still do it by contacting customer service and they will generally acquiesce, but just having the extra steps there is enough to save a ton of money by keeping the uninformed in the dark.
Fuck em. Make it difficult for them. Be the goddamn squeakiest wheel you can possibly be.
Tangentially related, SSDI disability process does the same thing.
A bazillion hoops with no hope of doing it all correct unless you have a lawyer. Each step of the process is prolonged with denials, extentions, hearings, appointments, reviews, etc.
You can’t work during the process, so if they take long enough they can force your hand. Can you actually find some gainful activity? You better because you have bills and it’s year 3 now. Private disability insurance runs out after 2 years or so.
Oh look, you happen to be able to do a job. Looks like you aren’t disabled. Denied.
For every person like you that won’t take the shit, there are many more that will just give up. Just like unemployment and insurance claims - denial is the first step in protecting the bottom line.
This is the crucial part. Same reason many brands have shifted from giving discounts to “rebates”. You have to jump through a few hoops yourself to get it, it’s not automatic. And that immediately results in a decent % of customers simply not even bothering, which is exactly what manufacturers are banking on.
sometimes it goes wrong for companies doing this
That decent percent is in fact roughly 60%, in my industry. At least according to what my vendor reps tell me.
Only 4 in 10 people even bother to attempt to do their rebates. The manufacturers love that, because it allows them to put a giant "$2000 OFF!!! viamailinrebate" on their marketing literature and that gets eyeballs on the ad and feet in the door, but they know damn well they won’t actually have to pay out on the majority of those promos and in fact they don’t even budget with the expectation that they will.
I worked retail almost 20 years ago and that was the last time I saw a rebate. I haven’t had to mail in or apply for a rebate in ages.
Menard’s has a perpetual 11% rebate program. It’s super obnoxious having to mail it in
I doubt Menards exists in a country where someone uses the term “bollocks”, but that’s fair. I’m curious to know how many Brit places have mail-in rebates nowadays.
Yes &
For every person like you
There’s at least 1/10 of a person doing their best to commit fraud. Maybe they’ll pretend they found a hair in their food, maybe worse:
Source of that is a terrible rap song, Punchmade Dev - Wire Fraud Tutorial
These are the kind of criminals support agents deal with all day long. Then you and I come along and nobody trusts us.
Well whatever is after Veo 3 should make all our lives easier. Hey we can always face-to-face barter whatever we whittle!
