How long would this last?
They’re really gonna make people start pirating out of spite lol
Started a while ago, matey.
VPN, random port, docker, and jellyfin.
The golden age of streaming has passed.
Have they already added commercial breaks?
Amazon did. They kept the price the same, added commercials, then offered to remove the commercials for an additional $4/month.
How to create value:
Take something away. Ask for money to return it.Business genius. /s
And companies wonder why film piracy is on the rise… 🤔
And ads. Lots of ads.
Did they say ads?
it’s implied
Is it? If they’re going to make this available for a free/ad priced tier I could see showing ads. But not for the ad free tier.
it was mostly a joke but I wouldn’t be too suprised if they actually start showing ads too
If it weren’t for those pesky content breaks every now and then, they could serve even more ads. Won’t somebody think of the shareholders?
Those damn consumers are so entitled! Why can’t we just serve ads continually instead of having to produce expensive content?
I’ve kinda wished services would do something a bit like this for a while:
One channel for new stuff, based on your recommendations—just gives you a load of random tastes of shows without you actively picking through things
One for stuff you rewatch. For example, if you’ve watched always sunny or peep show through a couple of times, put random episodes on this channel for when you just want something in the background
For the rewatch, on Plex you can build playlists and shuffle them. I do this for my kids, one wants Bluey and the other wants Peppa pig. I let the random gods decide what comes on next.
Gonna need some machine learning for this. How much AI in your streaming service are you comfortable with?
AI and ML based recommendation engines in streaming services have been a thing for as long as there have been steaming services
Ok, how about ai enhanced TV shows and movies. Still comfortable?
This sounds like a bit of a slippery slope fallacy, if you’re implying that a steaming service using a recommendation algorithm obviously concludes with sinister personalised AI brainwashing injected into my watching, I think you maybe should watch less black mirror.
If you didn’t mean that, we’ve been using AI in film and TV for ages now, the latest batch of Star wars films made extensive use of it. Hell, the huge battles in lord of the rings used a rudimentary AI system for governing all the entities in it.
I’m just working my way to asking if you’d watch personalized AI TV bruh, not purposely attempting a fallacy. I’d give it a look, maybe once or twice. Just to see 😂
As someone very hesitant about AI I’m comfortable with it. It’s a streaming service, not my email inbox.
One step further: ai “enhanced” TV shows and movies
We still good, or you ready to start pitching a fit?
There was a chrome extension a few years ago called ottoplay that did something like this, would take your Netflix Hulu and YouTube accounts and set up channels like comedy movies and shit like that, would play random episode non stop.
The only good thing about streaming services is theoretically they aren’t region tied.
They usually are though. Most content (excluding their own) is not available in all regions due to licensing issues.
Most content (excluding their own) is not available in all regions due to licensing issues.
Actually, even including their own for some dumb reason. For instance, Paramount holds the rights to Star Trek, but there’s no way for me to stream some of the shows legally, because Paramount+ isn’t available where I live.
Which to me makes no sense. It’s just a freaking website, globally accessible, hosting content they own…
Expanding to other countries can probably be a bit complicated and maybe they don’t feel like it’s worth it.
Personally I barely care about copyright laws, and in cases like these I don’t give a single fuck. I won’t call the piracy justified like the deranged people in r/piracy (and especially it’s Lemmy equivalent) would. It’s not like I deserve to watch the content or anything, I just don’t care
You all should check out criterion channel. Definitely more art house style but a great value.
Minus ad breaks, I missed this aspect of content consumption. Choosing to watch a random episode of a random show just doesn’t happen and I missed being able to just “see what’s on”. I spent a fair amount of time setting up random “channels” I can tune into that play random episodes from tv shows on my media server and it’s great.
A lot of newer shows cannot be watched randomly though because the episodes actually build upon each other.
If you take older shows like TNG or X files: you could easily jump back in after missing half a season. The episodes were written to be mostly self-contained, because missing an episode or two because of life was very very common. Season finales were often a major exception, and were therefore also majority advertised so people knew to plan around them.
If you write a show for streaming, however, there is no concept of “missing an episode”. So the writers are freed from that constraint, and subsequently write shows that are only meant to be watched in their entirety, in order.
Interesting to see it as being freed from a constraint rather than a crutch that viewers can be relied upon to watch all episodes. IMO writing satisfying one episode arc that also makes up part of a wider arc is much more difficult, and many shows now really have just a single arc that only gets good in the last third, making it essentially a 6-8 hour movie rather than an episodic show.
Yeah, you can definitely see a trend towards more HBO style shows as streaming took off.
I remember watching an episode of The Wire, and somebody else watched it with me and didn’t like it because they didn’t know what was going on and the story wasn’t resolved in an hour. I’m like 10 episodes in, and this ain’t Columbo.
I’m old enough to remember the promise that cable TV was paid so you wouldn’t have commercials…it lasted what, 6 months? The channels without commercials cost extra…le sigh
The predictable backstop of subscription plus the nearly limitless potential upside of ad sales is just too tempting in the long run for media companies. They get to have their cake and eat it too. Spotify, Amazon, Netflix and have all eventually given in, despite insisting they never would. Shareholder owned media companies will always gravitate to this model. It’s the only way to maximize quarterly revenue growth.
Yep. It was pretty clear streaming services were always going to end up the same way from the start. Even YouTube has, although that was harder to predict when it was mostly 30s cat videos.
Pretty wild to want to add channel when:
- their interface is garbage
- their content is pretty lacking
If they play any “pay for that channel”, it’s insta unsub
The ads are coming! the ads are coming! -Modern Paul Revere
only reason I still have disney+ is because my cousin used to borrow it from me. then I stopped paying for it and he was too lazy to make his own account to he just started paying mine. I’ve had free disney+ for year and a half now
Wow that kinda took an unexpected turn. Sound something nice does come back around sometimes huh?
for real. it still baffles me that he just didn’t make his own :D but sometimes nice things do happen
Same thing happened w my mom and Netflix. Except I still don’t use it
The most frustrating thing about their interface is that if you’ve already watched an episode of something, then try to watch it again, it’ll immediately minimize it to start the “next episode” countdown.
It’s been ongoing.
And Disney+ is so crowded with garbage now that they’ve integrated Hulu’s content into it.
I like to sail through the 7 seas: No ads, no monthly payments, all content in only one website. Best deal! Aye aye!🏴☠️
I always have trouble watching Disney streams. Bad quality, buffering, slow loading. I usually just pirate the show and switch to Plex because apparently I can run a better streaming service than Disney.
I’m already thinking about it. I can’t watch new content outside the service, so if I’m torrenting for long term storage regardless, why am I paying in the first place?
Let me guess: which channels you have access to depend on your subscription level? Fuck these jerks.
And they make sure that you have to buy the full package to get what you want.
New movie releases only costs $10 per streaming on the platinum-full-extended-live-ultra-package.
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man, piracy, i mean owning physical media, seems like a better and better method of enjoying media.
It’s a good thing every show ever has been released on physical media. Right? Right?
If pirating it and saving to a thumb drive counts as physical media, then yeah, I guess.
you can buy blank blurays, and probably burn them.
You didn’t hear it from me, but uh.
they hyped up X-Men 97 for months and then didn’t bring it to my region. i don’t even know how there would be copyright issues since it’s an original. they just want me to stop paying and start sailing.
gotta love when they just don’t release something regionally, because copyright moment.
but it’s THEIR SHOW i don’t get what copyright problems they would have… i understand when they have licensed shows from other companies, syndication etc but why not release original shows everywhere? Netflix does it.
