• SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
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      10 months ago

      Sigh.

      Promoting conspiracy theories involving Jews being puppet masters that control your government is textbook Goebbels kind of shit.

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        10 months ago

        They weren’t claiming that jews are puppet master overlords that control our governments

        They were claiming that Israel has a strong political lobby that can do a lot of political damage to politicians that don’t align themselves with Israel.

        They do this by doing exactly what you’re doing. Claiming or implying that anybody against Israel or the pro-Israel lobby is an antisemite.

        I’ll remind you that “jewish people” and “Israel” are not the same thing.

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          10 months ago

          I’ll remind you that “jewish people” and “Israel” are not the same thing.

          You need to tell that to the people that are shootiing at synogogues, trying to burn down jewish businesses. There is a Pro-Palestinian movement in my city that are protesting a Jewish community instead of protesting the Israeli consulate that’s in this city. Maybe tell them they should be protesting the consulate not the jewish communtiy because they don’t seem as enlightened as you are to understand the distinction between Israel and Jews in other countries.

          But you aren’t going to do that, are you? Could upset your friends in your movement if you criticize their actions.

          The Palestinian movement has proven the need for a group to lobby for the well being of Jews in the US. If you won’t speak out against the antisemitic activity that’s occurring in the Palestinian movement because you’re too busy spreading conspiracy theories on the internet, then yeah there needs to be some group that’s able to talk about these issues to those in power that are able to protect communities that are in danger from your allies in your movement.

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            10 months ago

            I never said antisemitism doesn’t exist. Neither did the person above. Nor did anybody else.

            You’re bringing that up now as a distraction. Criticising the actions of the regime in Israel, a regime that has openly stated they want to see the eradication of all Palestinians, is not antisemitism.

            “My” friends in “my movement”? What are you talking about? I’m not involved in a movement against Jewish people.

            If you’re referring to me being against the genocide being carried out by Israel, then yes, I’m against that.

            But it’s not really a “movement”, it’s the default. I guess with that line of thinking I’m a part of all kinds of “movements” - the “anti-paedophilia movement”, the “I don’t like kale movement”, the “people who think alligators are scary movement”, the “people who dislike chores movement”, etc.