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They have an agenda, so they assume everyone else does too. It’s always projection.
Universal happiness and prosperity could be a part of an agenda as well right?
Not an agenda people talk enough about
no, because there is no such thing as universal happiness.
everyone’s happiness is different, and often conflicting.
for example, my father’s happiness would have been me playing football. I hated sports. hence, he hated me until he died for ‘hurting him’.
That really sucks. Can practically feel the tension through your post. What a bummer… shouldn’t kill anybody to let somebody else be happy doing their own thang (and be happy not necessarily copying another person’s thang).
Less importantly:
When I think about ‘universal happiness’, I’d think it’s more about creating conditions where everyone has the opportunity to pursue their own version of happiness, rather than imposing a single idea of happiness on everyone.
yeah, but that’s not how people work.
He’d be much happier in the grand scheme of things if he accepted his kids as they are.
This is a strange exclusionary way of considering happiness, tbh.
Like even if I want, and maybe even would be most happy, to sit down in front of a plate of duck a l’orange for dinner doesn’t mean I can’t or won’t be perfectly happy eating a sirloin steak for dinner instead
Edit: for clarity, I am referring to your father’s view on happiness, not your response to it
Um… they are called the Warner Brothers (and the Warner Sister). Is he non binary now?
It’s a joke.
It’s a joke based on Yakko not having a gender. Which doesn’t make sense. Therefore my confusion.
Cartoons operate under the rule of funny, anything is allowed for the joke
I wouldn’t say that’s how jokes work. Some things need to be established first. The joke is not, that he is non binary. It’s a play with words, “agenda” in this case. Him being genderless is supposed to be the baseline. This is contradicted by him being a Warner brother. So the joke is already falling apart during the setup. If the joke was about him being a chicken, it wouldn’t have made sense either, because it was never established before. And can’t explained with cartoon logic.
It feels like people are automatically mad at me for criticizing the joke, because the topic is gender politics. I never said he can’t be non binary, I don’t care, but there was never a basis for this. Or so I thought. As others have pointed out, there apparently was an episode or a comic where this was mentioned.
How would you refer to a he/they sibling
Sibling?
As your sibling? The usual, I think, such as “dummy” or “asshat”.
“gender politics”
You must be fun at parties.
This doesn’t address anything I’ve said. But just downvote away, I guess.
Do you take Wile.E.Coyote running into a wall after the roadrunner runs through it literally too?
Which doesn’t make sense. Therefore my confusion.
There are people who do not identify as having a gender, this is commonly referred to as “Agender”. People who identify as Agender may not identify with the concept of gender, some may attempt to present gender neutral, while others may not make an effort to present any specific way. It’s one of the many NonBinary identities, that is people who don’t identify as exclusively male or female. I can understand though that for some it might be confusing as it has only been receiving mainstream recognition relatively recently.
There’s a panel from the Animaniacs comic where Wakko states that his gender is “other”. It floats around the internet ever few years. The comic was, I believe, back in the 90s so I’m not sure I’d say “now”. They have always used the term “brother” and he/him pronouns for Wakko though.
Wait, there’s comics? I thought it was just a cartoon
I love how politically charged the show is haha
The show is politically charged because… there’s an enby person? Or am I misunderstanding you
Sure, let’s pretend the gender stuff ISNT a current political issue, and ignore all the political jokes the show makes, and then imply some bullshit like I have an issue with NB because I said “politically charged” because why not? Fuck off. My partner is part of the community.
You’re absolutely right, and I’m sorry for jumping to the worst assumption. I’m gonna take this as a sign to log off and touch some grass. /gen
I appreciate your apology. Thank you.
id wager that gender expression (or lack of) isnt a political issue, our rights being stripped is the political issue. same goes for racial segregation, a person of color isnt a political issue, the wrongs done to that person are
In the remake’s theme song; “We’re gender balanced, pronoun neutral, and ethnically diverse!”
While the fun is in the fast pronunciation of longer words, they’re pointing to a split gender diagram chart between Yakko (male), Dot (female) and Wakko (split). So even if it’s based in a joke from old episodes, WB seems to have run with it.Remake??
Yup! They did a remake in 2020, never watched it myself cause Hulu but I’ve heard some good things about it.
It’s okay. Not nearly as good as the old show, but that’s not a surprise.
They have some gall to call it a “Hulu Original.”
Since the new episodes are produced by Hulu, I’d say it still counts as one even though the show originated elsewhere.
I cannot aggre with your position, sir, however I will defend your right to be wrong with my life.
It’s not canon but he has been adopted by the NB community as a sort of an icon.
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Not originally, but this does sound like the kind of boundary pushing puny joke they’d make to make the straights slightly uncomfortable.
[No no no. Finger Prints.
I don’t think so.](https://youtu.be/lY2kC5fZG64?si=uPoB4wzgMdvy6e-J)
While I like the joke, Wakko is actually a boy. He had a crush on Miss Bambon, so one could assume hetro. Humorously, Dot also had a crush on her. 🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️
I agree that se is obvious supposed to be a boy, but I don’t understand your premise. You can be agender and have a crush on a woman.
Not really trying to make a point. But he’s not agender. Dot is bisexual though.
Your comment seemed awfully opinionated for not trying to make a point.
Don’t read it like that.
Nonbinary does not imply asexuality.
True. Wakko’s pronoun is “he” as the show has decided.
And plenty of nonbinary humans use and prefer the pronoun “he”
Also true. But we must consider the fact that when the show was airing, though I’m sure non-binary people certainly must have existed at the time, non-binary was not something that was part of the mainstream consciousness. So would not have been acceptable in a kids show. And though I’m not sure it would even be acceptable in today’s day and age by most mainstream standards, it’s more acceptable now than it was 30 years ago.
On top of that it’s very likely that most real people at that time who would likely identify as non-binary would not have identified themselves as such and would have chosen a he/she pronoun of some sort to identify themselves in order to conform to the social standard of that time.
Still, we should celebrate the characters who are designed to be nonbinary, to represent that community, not try to decide for that character 30 years later.
Right, to me it feels dishonest and pandering to change a character later like this. I don’t feel it’s winning points with anyone.
Oh, nevermind then. Yall, no points can be given, this person feels it.
I’m glad you were here to discount the other posters who were enjoying it. That was a close one.
Someone holds a different opinion and is engaging in civil discussion. Boo, not allowed >:[
Nah. Abed in Community is the best example of how you can have great representation for a group (autistic people) even if the character wasn’t initially written with that trait in mind. He was initially just written as a character, not an autistic character. Animaniacs had plenty of gender fuckery going on that kids like me noticed in the 90s
I did notice it that too. All of them wore clothes opposite of their perceived gender at one point. But it’s a cartoon. They are genderless. And not in a nonbinary way. They are whatever the script tells them to be.
Yes, and in the script in the OP, wakko is genderless and nonbinary
But we must consider the fact that when the show was airing,
Hulu rebooted it in 2020. The latest season was released in February, 2023.
He’s a Warner sibling, which means that at any moment he’s exactly whatever is necessary for the joke to work.
“Finger prince” is a great joke too from that show. I laughed my ass off.
Goodnight everybody!
I definitely read this in their voices
“And remember kids! Yakko spelled backwards is Okkay”
Wakko looks adorable AF in this image.
Wakko is adorable AF
Wacko is addicted to Don Knots comedy, you can always catch him watching old episodes of Matlock just for the guest appearance’s.
That used to be a running joke on the 90’s version of that show.
I know it’s a small detail but not all non-binary people are agender.
Genuinely curious about this because I had always assumed those were the same thing.
Non-binary people don’t fit neatly into the gender binary but might still associate with a gender, agender people meanwhile have no gender. Someone can be both or either one (I’m personally both).
This is firmly in the realm of semantic definition that most people don’t need to know IMO, definitely not in casual conversation. Like the precise botanical definition of a nut, ‘true crabs’ vs other kinds of crabs, and other such specialised definitions in various fields of study. For everyday discussion, broad labels are fine. Non-binary, agender, gender-fluid and maybe more that I’m ignorant of can all kinda be used interchangeably in most contexts and I think there’s nothing disrespectful in that. Expecting more is expecting too much.
If talking with one’s therapist about it or in circles where this is a main topic of discussion, yeah precise terms are useful, but outside of that it’s fine to mix them up.
I just felt this needed to be said. I’m absolutely in favour of people like you chiming in with the definition though, in the right context like here.
They all mean very different things, using non binary and agender interchangeably is one thing but using non binary and genderfluid interchangeably is completely different
Maybe it’s wrong, but do you think everyone in the world should know this? Though fwiw I don’t think gender-fluid is (or should be) used as a generic term for the others, the others feel more generic. I just wouldn’t think it comes from disrespect if someone does.
Wouldn’t gender-fluid also fall under the NB “umbrella”?
Gender-fluid is more like a superposition on the binary. You can collapse the wave function and take a measurement but a split-second later it could be different.
Ok. That makes sense to me. Thank you!
Not necessarily
aaaaaaaaaaah that make sense TY :D
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I lived in Burbank for a decade, and drove by the water tower a couple days a week.
Oh how frequently I wished they would come bouncing out.
He? Shouldn’t it be they?
Not necessarily. Nonbinary covers a broad range of gender identities that don’t all exclusively use they/them.
Thanks for the info!
Also pronouns aren’t necessarily dependent on gender, they’re dependent on the person’s pronoun preferences. Even someone who seems like they might use a specific set of pronouns based on their gender might use a different set of pronouns, as an example I knew someone who is a demiboy and they go by any pronouns.
We will finally achieve world peace when people realize gender, sex, and pronouns can be separate
It should be whatever Wakko prefers. Perfectly fine for a nonbinary person to use “he”.
Edit: And also, pretty sure that’s another layer to the joke. Cause Wakko is just out there living his life while the world spins around him making definitions and boxes that have no bearing on how he lives.
And now Spacetoon will forever forget this cartoon ever existed (because it has definitely aired it before)
Ohh, I should revisit Animaniacs. Haven’t seen any in years!
When I dived back into Animaniacs a few years ago, I was very happy that the episodes that I watched had aged really well.
Edit: Words are important for context
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“nonbinary”
What, not to going to be pedantic about them spelling gender as genda while you’re at it?
That’s a completely different thing, because it’s on purpose to match the “agenda” word, while “nonbinery” on purpose or not, is what someone who doesn’t read much would write, as a non native English speaker I’m kinda pedantic about such errors
