• Muscar@discuss.online
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    What’s with the random period in the middle of a sentence and then none at the end? Wouldn’t be surprised at all if it was done on purpose. People that do shit like deserve to get kicked in the face.

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    While many athletes are millionaires, many others make a reasonable salary for the 5-10 years that their knees still work and then “retire” with no transferable skills, broken bodies, and scrambled eggs for brains.

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    Nothing like seeing strapping young bucks tossing the pig skin around.

    Fat boomers love some of that!

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    I assume future generations will be as ill-informed and generally dumb as current generations.

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      For some reason there’s less of a stigma sitting around having beers in a stadium while watching adults play a sport than getting drunk in a park while watching some children.

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    I don’t think future generations will be bewildered at all, I think they will just be angry at us for sitting down and taking it because we were afraid to make things worse and collectively try anything else than let ideologically bankrupt centrists run the show with their strategy of slowly dialing back, in tinyyyyy increments, ongoing mass scale human rights atrocities and the astoundingly cataclysmic extinction of biodiversity and habitat.

    I think future generations will be nauseatingly disgusted at how we laughed at environmental “extremists” who chained themselves to old growth trees, lit logging equipment on fire, blew up oil pipelines and fumbled around trying any desperate action they could to stop the incredible unfolding mass scale death, human and animal. They will look at the rest of us like condescending assholes on a sinking ship who spent the last few minutes of their life bullying the few weirdos who realized the ship was sinking and were trying to sound the alarm and distribute life vests while we sat in our deck chairs drinking with the captain, pointing and laughing at how stupid and useless the frantic passengers trying to save lives looked in their pathetic attempts to get everyone’s attention (who didn’t give a shit like us).

    Future generations won’t be confused, they will just talk of the generations that were alive between the 1950-2030 as pariahs, as disgusting examples of how a generation of people can decide to en masse foreclose the future of their children, their grandchildren, their great grandchildren and so on… Societies all over the world for thousands of years will study how badly 1950s-2030s US culture fucked up (and also of course extending back into European colonialism) and people will rightfully use us as a punching bag when talking about how pathetic a group of powerful cowards can be.

    There will be no bewilderment I promise you.

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      I want to believe you, but then I look at how we view the Roman empire today. Maybe the internet will change the cheese of things this time around.

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        There is always a future, we are just in denial about it because the foundation of our entire world views are reliant on an an intense alienation from futurity.

        Things will not end, humanity probably won’t die out in the next couple of hundred years, humans and animals (and plants etc…) will have to subsist through an immense amount of suffering that we needlessly and knowingly caused. In some ways this is more awful than it all just ending in one big bang, which is why we are so culturally obsessed with apocalyptic visions that are immediate, complete and draw a clear demarcation between “before the apocalypse” and “after the apocalypse”. We know deep down that the scariest thing about living during this time is that apocalypses generally don’t work like that, they come in like tides, faster than you can imagine but also in cyclic pulses that recede and return with greater force… and all the time you are so exhausted from the struggle to maintain your shitty daily life that you don’t have the energy or willpower to save yourself or anyone else around you… so you have to keep going through the same awful grind you had to before the apocalypse (except now more stressful and worse) even while everything around you is comically collapsing into great heaps until one day you drop dead from the exhaustion of the daily grind or the tide sweeps in and takes you away.

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      Add in something about successive generations pointing the finger at the previous one in order to feel better about themselves

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        Every generation has probably done that, but you know what, future generations will be right to point the finger at us.

        The better damn well point the finger at us lest they risk not learning the horrific lessons of our time.

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          As long as they aren’t using that as a pretext for division and inaction, that’s fine

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            I think division is actually very important, younger generations face an existential need to sever themselves from the worldview and belief systems their parents raised them under (and return to value systems that have embodied humanity for literally the entire rest of our history) in order to save as much of humanity and nature as possible.

            Inaction as well is possibly our most potent weapon against the coming mass experience of suffering that climate change will wrought upon us. We all have to stop doing, we need to grind the global economy to a halt and scare the shit out of capitalists to the point that bargaining with us is preferable to letting the scarier alternative happen.

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    Let me tell you something. Downtown San Diego near the Port of SD was absolute shit until Petco Park opened. Downtown San Francisco near the end of the train line was shit until AT&T Park opened. This happens all the time near big new stadiums for popular teams. Stadiums bring in revenue beyond the stadium itself.

    Stadiums also usually host a lot of other events than sports games. They’re generally very profitable for the city, which is why we subsidize them.

    It’s fine to not like sports, but don’t pretend that it makes you smarter than everyone else.

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      They’re not profitable for cities, they’re profitable for people who bought land in the area before the development of the stadium. Look into who is pushing for the “revitalization”. It’s usually property developers who just bought cheap land in the area.

      They get subsidized improvement of their property, and can sell at a profit or make some minor “improvements” (paint and landscaping) and rent it for a lot of money. I’m not saying that developing these properties is bad, but cities usually don’t make back the money they spent on the stadium. They lose money and property developers gain (and donate to local politicians).

      Cities should never give companies or developers lower taxes in exchange for “revitalization”. No developer will invest in a project unless it’s already profitable. If you don’t make them pay taxes, there’s no way to make it up in “jobs”. Companies that can be lured with tax breaks will leave as soon as they get a better deal somewhere else. It’s not sustainable.

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      Scholarly economic reviews of publicly subsidized stadiums are almost unanimous that they do not promote employment or per capita growth. Yes, you’ll find news articles to the contrary, but youll be hard pressed to find a published article in a reputable economic journal based on empirical evidence stating using public funds for a stadium actually helps the community economically. Do we get bread crumbs in a couple of sandwich shops and better transport to the stadium? Sure, but that’s hardly worth the public funds IMHO.

      Side note I love formula 1 but I’d throw a shitfit if my state, county or city wanted to use public fund for a track.

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        Same could be said for building a park. How much money does a park bring in for a city?

        Therefore cities spending money on parks is a waste of money. Cities shouldn’t build anymore parks.

  • Rob T Firefly@lemmy.world
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    Trying to source this quote, all I could find was this tweet attributing it to politician and former professional athlete Joshua Turek. Interesting if that’s correct.

    Also, for the sake of putting the text in question here in text instead of a picture of the text:

    I wonder if future generations will look back in bewilderment that citizens allowed themselves to be taxed to build sports stadiums that billionaires then charged us to enter for the sake of rooting for millionaires to play children’s games whose outcomes distract us from getting robbed by rich people for things just like this.

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    Lemmy: “Don’t fall victim to capitalism and the pressure to squeeze value and production out of every instant of your lives. Pursue activities you are passionate about and consume media that you like. Enjoyment is more than sufficient as an end goal.”

    Also Lemmy: “No not like that.”

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      Believe it or not, sports are played outside of taxpayer-funded stadiums and many of them don’t even charge you money to watch.

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        Are you saying the commercialization of sports is the problem? What’s up with the nuanced take, I want easy to digest answers like “sports = bad” /s

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          I’m not all that into sports myself, but I worked a job doing TV news camera work for a while and people seemed way more into a high school football or basketball games than they are at bigger events. Maybe because they’re not all getting drunk?

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            They pay a lot more for the bigger events, but they have no connection to the people on the field. Its a bit different when your kid is playing.

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      The issue is that billionaire owners use tax money to build a new 500 millions stadium and then keep the profit. Fuck that, the government should take the revenue in proportion to what they paid in.

      You would see the fucking parasites take out their wallet fucking fast.

      The government could take that money instead and finance good quality sport facilities for the community instead.

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        The issue is that billionaire owners use tax money to build a new 500 millions stadium and then keep the profit. Fuck that, the government should take the revenue in proportion to what they paid in.

        100%

        I’m so proud of the voters of San Diego telling the Chargers to fuck off.

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      That’s a bit of a false dichotomy. What media we enjoy and what activities we are passionate about is partly a product of capitalist ideology. So to get out of that, it doesn’t help to pursue mindless enjoyment.

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    Give them bread and circuses, and they will never revolt.

    Lenard Nemoy civ 4

    *Juvenal