Which we should see as an excellent radicalization and growth opportunity!
It can be exhausting explaining ourselves again and again, always met with the same accusations and assumptions born from the mythos spun by our enemies.
However, we must remember these people are people, and many people change their minds given enough information, delivered with firm respect. For every belligerent person who appears like they wouldn’t change their mind for anything, there are 10 people quietly lurking who are more on-the-fence. Even those who regurgitate insults and contempt may change their mind when the stars align!
These people are not our enemies, they are victims to the greatest campaign of dishonesty in human history! It is our duty to draw out the poison and deliver the medicine!
I know many comrades here have very difficult lives and do not have the patience or energy to deal with such people. Please do not exhaust yourself interacting with liberals, and allow comrades with more energy to deal with them.
Radicalizing online is not the end-all be-all, but at this point in the psychological war for those within the Anglosphere, every victory is invaluable!!!
Quite frankly, the term liberal refers to Democrats and Republicans not Conservatives and Centralists. I’m a Centralist and its sometimes weird when people outright call me a liberal. I don’t pay attention it though.
Centralist?
neutral. Not left or right. Well…kinda right…
I would recommend actually learning about what you support. You don’t seem overtly hostile, but remember you are on the same end of the scale with people who have decided that my ethnic group has no right to exist.
You might say “Those guys are evil! I would never support that!” You don’t need to support it directly, anyone who is even complacent is supporting those people.
That’s just one out hundreds of possible problems with being a “Centralist”. They simply don’t exist. You have those fighting oppression, and those oppressing. Being neutral means you have picked your side.
wait…what is your ethic group? (btw, I don’t discrimate cuz I’m not racist -_-)
Honestly, it doesn’t even fully matter. I could be Jewish, Romani, Slavic, Black. Other then ethnic groups, I could be handicapped, gay, Catholic, elderly, poor, chronically ill, and so on.
It doesn’t matter, because all those groups and many more deserve extermination, slavery, to be experimented on, starvation, and death.
I hope you understand the point I am trying to make. But my personal ethnic group is Slavic. We were labelled as little better then rats, abominations, and racially unfit to exist as a people. We needed to be exterminated so that our land could be taken and used properly for expanding the Aryan race in “General Plan Ost”. We were an disease, not people to them.
There are only those who support the oppressed, and those that support the oppressor. You cannot be both. Make your choice.
Oh. I like slavic music. You guys are cool tbh.
Those on the right don’t think so at all.
To a lesser degree, neither do liberals as they despise the Bolshevik Revolution.
The choice is yours. Who do you want to associate with?
it refers to anyone who supports capitalism. if that’s not you, it’s not you.
Gotta say I was expecting some friction with ya’ll at lemmygrad after Federation (because we are all libs on hexbear) but so far you folks rock and I have been very pleased to see your high quality posts on my feed.
Loving to see posts like this. Can’t remember the Sankara quote but ya’ll know it. Cannot get tired of explaining ourselves because when the people understand us they will side with us.
Loving having new comrades in the posting trenches with us.
I have absolutely zero patience for anti-communism
um…you should try to be torlerant…
Mind clarifying what you mean, or giving a little more context?
like…in response to Rasm653u
Yes, because how I read it was "be tolerant to anti-communest reaction, be tollerant to potentially even fascists and Nazis
Be tolerant to anti-commies. Do NOT be tolerant to facists and Nazis.
Fascists are the prime spreaders of anti-communism. Many of the myths about Soviet atrocities or Russian supremacy in the Soviet Union originated in Nazi propaganda. The most vicious anti-communists are usually fascists and the most principled anti-fascists are usually communists. The fascist blackshirt gangs rose in Italy as a counter force to the rise of communism, killing communists and labor organizers. The first people the Nazis killed were communists. Communist parties and the red army were the first to rise up and defend against fascism. US installed Fascist/neoliberal (what’s the difference?) dictators like Suharto and Pinochet genocided communists. Where were Nazis effectively cracked down on? Socialist countries like the USSR.
Where’s the liberal anti-fascism? Liberals always defend fascists’ “free speech” and condemn the suppression of reactionary views. They think you can “debate them in the market place of ideas,” but you can’t. The liberal United States allowed most medium to high ranking Nazi party members to keep their position in West Germany. East Germany effectively de-nazified. The US nuked Japan to make them surrender on their conditions so they could keep the same fascists in power to be an anti-communist beacon, just be under the US’s thumb. If they surrendered to the then invading Red Army (like they almost did) they would have had to Denazify and the on-the-ground Communists who were gaining traction might have gotten power. Today it is the Liberal democrats that support flag waving fascists in Ukraine and their banning of all opposition (especially left-parties and trade unions).
By the way, this is the first time I’ve seen you off matrix, welcome. I hope you learn a few things while you’re here.
These people are not our enemies
That’s where I disagree. Liberals fund the police and the military, which is the main reason much of the world is enslaved and unable to fight climate change. So long as anyone is making excuses for this shit, they are most certainly the enemy of history. That being said, people can change. I know that because I did.
Liberalism as an entity is absolutely our enemy. I just mean individual liberals.
I believe this war will continue to heat up, and I just prefer to convert enemies in order to lessen their ranks, while we still can.
I have never regretted extending humanity and compassion to my enemies, and trying instead to see them as a victim of brainwashing, which they are.
Don’t forget, brainwashing is a co-opted term, and you’re using the co-opted version. Brain washing is literally the act of washing the brain from impurities and toxins. This is what you are describing as your preferred course of action, which is also the strategy of Mao and the PLA. They captured KMT soldiers and they washed their brains clean of anti-communist lies and showed them the truth. Once their brains were cleaned, the KMT soldiers saw that the correct course of action was joining the PLA.
Our rhetorical opponents are not brain washed, they are brain dirtied. They need to cleanse their minds of false beliefs, and our role in the process is to help them find and eliminate those false beliefs.
Seriously tho what’s the difference between a Soviet gulag and a Western prison? Any society that still has crime requires correctional facilities, the USSR is no different. Why do libs insist on Soviet ones being called gulags? If you want to criticize their prison system just call it that. I know it’s a Russian word but we’re speaking English here which already has a word for prisons, and to me the Soviet system really does not seem different or unique enough to warrant its own word as a proper noun. (I-it’s not just to make the Soviet system seem more evil by distancing it from their own Western prison systems right? I-it’s not that right?)
Gulags were used to try and rehabilitate dangerous people back into society, which is in theory what American prisons do too. But in practice American prisons are where the poor are tortured, raped, beaten, branded with second-class citizenry and commited to a lifetime of hellish punishment, especially for crimes of poverty.
You forgot enslaved. America outlawed slavery except as punishment for crime, so how do you get your slaves back? arrest them all for nonsense!
Why do libs insist on Soviet ones being called gulags?
Because GULAG is a Russian acronym (Chief Administration of Corrective Labour Camps). They were literally called gulags. They are corrective labor camps, not storage containers for human. Granted, most US prisons are labor camps as well.
i dont think they were called gulags tho. gulag was the name of the central administrative body, but the prisoners didnt call the camps gulags. just camps. or prison.
it’d be like calling US prisons BOPs.
