Jerry Seinfeld’s week of difficult appearances continues, this time in Virginia.

As soon as Seinfeld took the stage for a stand-up comedy set at Chrysler Hall in Norfolk on Saturday night, a man in the audience jumped up and yelled, “Free Gaza,” TMZ reported. The audience immediately began booing the heckler and chanting “Jerry! Jerry!” as another bystander wrestled the protester into a headlock.

Security escorted the man out of the building, but the show was interrupted by other protesters eight times throughout its 90-minute run.

The controversy around Seinfeld’s views stems from his vocal support of Israel — which he visited following the Oct. 7 attacks — and his wife’s $5,000 donation to a GoFundMe for pro-Israel counterprotesters at UCLA after a late April protest turned violent.

Seinfeld didn’t seem bothered by the interruptions, telling the crowd not to boo the man because he had a right to protest.

“This is exciting. I like this,” the comic said as the original protester was escorted out of the venue. “I like a little Jew hate to spice up the show.”

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        No no, the party line is “fuck yes, blow up more Hamas”….

        You’re not supposed to admit they’re children…

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          The new party line, which I’ve encountered several times in the past few days, is “it’s Hamas’ fault that Israel kills children.”

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            Do you know how many people have personally told me it’s Israel’s fault that Hamas kills Jews?

            Both sides are saying ridiculous shit out of emotion. Let’s not pretend it is just Israel supporters.

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              If you cannot see the difference between: an ethno-nationalist, settler colonialist state with weapons and support from the most powerful military on the planet keeping the people whose land you’re literally stealing in an open-air prison; and, the people that they’ve been oppressing for 80+ years who have turned to violence after literally everything else has failed for nearly a century, so maybe they don’t get murdered by IDF soldiers, and maybe one day they can just live in fucking peace and not have to worry about a bunch of nationalist Jews from New Jersey storming onto their property in the middle of night with AR-15s and forcing them out of the home their family lived in for generations…

              If you think these two groups are the same, and this is some “both sides” shit, then you either need a history lesson, or you already know I’m right and you’re full of shit.

              You’re “both sides”-ing a literal fucking genocide. Real bad look.

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                  Ok so why did you feel the need to talk about how many people have personally told you it’s Israel’s fault Hamas attacked as if it isn’t true (and no Israel ≠ the Israeli people just like Hamas ≠ the Palestinian people)?

                  And buddy, your username is public. It’s not hard to remember it when you say some of the vile shit you’ve said. Hey even the app I use has a feature to highlight users with notes… So please don’t lie to me about your agenda thanks.

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          If Palestine became its own state tomorrow, with Gaza and the West Bank, and Israel did everything right as of tomorrow (a big ask, I know), do you think Israel would continue to suffer attacks? For how long? Do you think continued violence is justified because of what Israel is doing now?

          I’m interested in a path to peace, but I don’t see one. I don’t like “free Gaza” because what does that even look like?

          If it’s just short for “stop genocide” then fine. But I don’t see what it can mean past that.

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            just to clarify, you realize that there was a path to peace, and then Likud/Netanyahu decided to actively help fund and support Hamas to undermine Palestine as a stable state. Specifically to avoid having to give Palestinians statehood (and a democratic vote)?

            that to this day, there are significant numbers of Palestinians who do not have a voice in any form of government.

            I don’t know what the path to peace now looks like - the conflict has gone longer than I’ve been alive. They came close and the powers that were decided they didn’t like that, so they fucked the entire region over. the Hamas attack on oct7- while definitely to be blamed on Hamas- is a direct result of those actions.

            I don’t know where we’d be had they not taken action to support Hamas over other groups… but it’s very clear both the Israeli far right and Hamas are willing participants in a war that’s mostly just killing civilians. So, the first step absolutely has to be to stop the violence and restore sanity, and then we can get back to working to a more lasting peace.

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              just to clarify, you realize that there was a path to peace

              Awhile ago, shaky, but maybe.

              then Likud/Netanyahu decided to actively help fund and support Hamas to undermine Palestine as a stable state.

              Absolutely. Also to scare their own citizens into supporting them. He didn’t intentionally let Oct 7th happen, but Hamas isn’t a pet to be toyed with, either. He used them as a boogyman, empowered them, and then was surprised when they did a small part of what they had threatened to do.

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                You understand that but say “Israel will continue to get attacked” like that justifies not letting them be free? And Israel is absolutely free to defend itself, but killing more more journalists in a few months than have ever been killed in any single war, evacuating people then bombing the refugee camps, targeting aid workers, and shooting unarmed civilians in the west bank (where there is no combat) is not self defense.

                People shit on America for Iraq and Afghanistan, and yeah, those were pretty fucking bad. Somehow Israel is managing to be worse. Objectively, provably worse.

                The Washington Post, citing Marc Garlasco, a military adviser at the Dutch organization PAX for Peace, reported that Israel is “dropping in less than a week what the US was dropping in Afghanistan in a year, in a much smaller, much more densely populated area, where mistakes are going to be magnified.”

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                  People shit on America for Iraq and Afghanistan, and yeah, those were pretty fucking bad. Somehow Israel is managing to be worse. Objectively, provably worse.

                  At least 35,647 people have been killed and 79,852 wounded in Israeli attacks on Gaza since October 7. The death toll in Israel from Hamas’s October 7 attack is 1,139 with dozens still held captive. Source

                  460,000 deaths in Iraq as direct or indirect result of the war including more than 60% of deaths directly attributable to violence.

                  You’re saying 36 thousand deaths is worth than 460 thousand deaths. I’m not saying what Israel is doing is justified, but it’s a hell of a lot more justified than whatever the fuck we were doing in Iraq.

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                You sure they didn’t let it happen?

                The IDF is one of the most capable and well-equipped militaries in the world.

                They had reports of training activity. They had been warned by several parties, but the attack still managed.

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            You don’t see a path to peace because you believe most Gazan’s want to kill all Israelis.

            A claim, I might add, that you state as fact and then post links to the supposed source that doesn’t say anything like that at all.

            You’re either so incredibly biased you don’t see your own bias while congratulating yourself on how open minded you are, or you’re intentionally trying to lie in a subtle manner to try and sway others.

            Given the maliciousness of posting a fake source to claim a non-existent genocidal desire OF A POPULATION CURRENTLY BEING GENOCIDED, I’m guessing the later.

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              A claim, I might add, that you state as fact and then post links to the supposed source that doesn’t say anything like that at all.

              You’re right. Maybe 72% of Palestinians are misunderstood. Maybe they only wanted to drag specific Israelis out of their safehouses in the only neighborhoods they could reach and beat and murder and kidnap those people, but not the rest. They really were going to stop right when the IDF happened to show up. What a coincidence.

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                A besieged populations support of a military operation that had a lower percentage of civilian deaths by at least two, possibly three, orders of magnitude compared to Israels actions over the last 7 months is a far cry from asking people if they support the slaughter of every Israeli, and you know it.

                By that same level of evidence and logic, a higher percentage of Israelis want the entire slaughter of the Gazan population.

                I will also point out that there is a secondary form of justice for Palestinian people in the west bank and East Jerusalem then there are for the settlers. Palestinian children frequently get arrested (read kidnapped) and sentenced by a military tribunal with no evidence. Whereas the settlers use the IDF as armed guards while they try to ethnically cleanse villages from the west bank, and if they do get arrested they have a jury trial with standards of evidence. To me, those 15,000 Palestinian prisoners are not prisoners, but hostages.

                Prisoner vs hostage
                Arrest vs kidnap
                Support for a military action vs desire for genocide

                It’s all in the words you use, isn’t it?

                Thanks for revealing yourself as a subtle genocide defender. I really was curious which one you were.

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                  I really was curious which one you were.

                  I’m glad you were able to make the situation so black and white.

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        Most people consider every issue to be black and white, which is ironic considering Israel/Palestine is probably the most gray issue in modern times.

        I’ll list out enough points that each side will hate some of them and want to argue. I hear that’s a great way to get up votes. But in the end I hope we can agree on most of these as facts, even if there are excuses and reasons.

        • Most Gazans want to kill every Israeli Source
        • Israel actually is killing much of Gaza
        • There are valid reasons for the Palestinians to hate the Israelis
        • The Israelis are under constant attack, even if they rebuff most of the attacks
        • The Israelis have a right to defend themselves
        • Israel has gone much farther than defense warrants.
        • Israel is going to use this as an excuse to settle more Palestinian land
        • Netanyahu enabled Hamas
        • People have a right to protest, and the crackdowns on peaceful protests are despicable
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          Most Gazans want to kill every Israeli Source

          Still waiting on that source. Cause that link you posted didn’t make that claim at all.

          Did you not read it, like, at all? Or are you lying intentionally to try and justify genocide and try and make a black and white issue (Is genocide ever justified?) into something … nuanced?

          I will say, this is the most subtle form of pro-genocide propaganda I’ve seen. Well done.

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            Right?? Their very first point is such inflammatory bs, it’s insane that they would try to prove it with that source. The most basic reading comprehension will tell you that they are making stuff up.

            Most Gazans agreeing that the actions of Hamas on Oct 7 were ‘correct’ does not equate to those same Gazans agreeing with every single Hamas stance. Such a dumb leap to go from that to “Most Gazans want to kill every Israeli”… Pathetic, evil, pro-genocide bullshit

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          I want to point out a key distinction that you successfully made here. Individual Israelis have a right to defend themselves. I, personally, do not recognize the state of Israel nor its supposed right to self-defense.

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            You recognizing the state of Israel does nothing to change the fact that they exist and have the right to defend themselves from terrorists.

            You aren’t personally offering to house 8 million Jews as a way to entice them to leave their current location and nobody else is either, therefore, 8 million Jews are in Israel and have a formed government to protect themselves with.

            If the goal is piece, which I think we agree it is, denying Jews a homeland is counter productive to those goals. Try bringing credible paths forward.

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            No, that is absolutely not what I meant. Israelis have a right to form a government, and that government is right to protect its citizens (that is not what it’s doing right now).

            You did make me change the second part from “has a right” to “is right to”, which is interesting.

            Palestinians should also have a right to form a government. If I say they have a right to protect their citizens, that likely means war and genocide. I’d hope that if the Palestinians form a government and a state, they realize that they lose the war and decide that peace is in their best interests.

            Either way, the full on genocide needs to stop. Whether I think the Gazans are murderous, religious zealots or not*, they’re still human. They deserve aid. Israel’s blocking of aid should have been enough that we pull support. Maybe we did behind the scenes, who knows. We shouldn’t be funding Israel (or Northern Virginia, really), as much as we do. I don’t think Israel collapses without US munitions, certainly not to Palestine. Defending them from Iran is fine (which is also not what we’re doing).

            Palestinians don’t want peace. Israelis don’t want peace. What the fuck are we supposed to do about it? We can try to limit the damage in the short term (and we should), but I don’t have long term solutions, and I don’t think anyone else does either.

            *(I understand they have reason to be. But is wanting to murder an entire people ever justified?)

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              But is wanting to murder an entire people ever justified?

              The previous person already said you should back that statement up. And then you repeat it again.

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    The audience immediately began booing the heckler and chanting “Jerry! Jerry!” as another bystander wrestled the protester into a headlock.

    Fucking what

    “This is exciting. I like this,” the comic said as the original protester was escorted out of the venue. “I like a little Jew hate to spice up the show.”

    Fucking what

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    If you think pro-Palestinian demonstrations are Jewish hate, you’re a complete chud, Seinfuck. Also, it’s literally making people associate anti-Palestinian sentiment with Judaism at large. Can’t stop people from shooting themselves in the foot, I suppose.

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      Everytime the Zionists imply that being against the mass murder of children is being against Jews a little child dies … quite literally, either bombed by Israel or snipped by an IDF soldier.

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    another bystander wrestled the protester into a headlock

    That’s assault, right? Cause it sounds a lot like assault.

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      Nonono, if someone is peacefully protesting a political opinion that is not shared by the government, all measures of silencing are legal /s

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        It’s become clear that the show was almost entirely Larry David. Seinfeld was just lucky enough to be his buddy at the time and ride along.

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            I don’t know enough to say either way, but the quality definitely changed. Regardless, by that point, the cadence of the show, characters, etc. had already long been established so (as NBC execs figured out) they could just do it without Larry.

            But obviously Larry David was the soul of that show. The show was about him, he is just too introverted and malcontent to play himself so he let his far more outgoing friend take the lead role.

            Probably. Seems that way at least.

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    While reading I was like ok maybe he’s not so bad. He says the man has right to protest, right on Jerry. Then he says “a lil jew hate to spice up the show” get fucked sienfeld

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    It seems counterproductive to pay for tickets to go see a comedian just to protest heckle.

    Like, you just gave that man money to yell at him. I’m sure he’s drying his tears with the dollar bills.

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      Lol, do you have any idea how much money this guy has? These hecklers achieved A huge victory here. I had no idea until now how far he’d gone. What a piece of shit this guy is.