Free education -Soviet Union, China, Cuba, Vietnam

15% wage for rent - Soviet Union

Land Redistribution (Landback?) - Cuba, China, Soviet Union

Unions - Soviet Union, Cuba, China, Vietnam, DPRK

Free natural disaster reconstruction - DPRK

State of the art public transit - China

No electricity bill -Gaddafi Libya

No interest loans - Gaddafi Libya

On work site medical care - Soviet Union

Pre employment unemployment UBI - Gaddafi Libya

We can go on and on and on and on and on.

If one is an “anti tankie”, then it must follow that one must be against these kinds of policies.

Progressives and leftists DREAM of having these things. But they’re committed to being against the tankies.

They have yet to demonstrate how the masses are supposed to get these benefits by negotiating and appealing to the good graces of capitalists.

But they’re TERRIFIED at the prospect that the people.may do these exact things AT GUNPOINT. As if they know those guns are meant for them.

  • KiG V2@lemmygrad.ml
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    2 years ago

    Maybe if you don’t want to be killed or imprisoned by a worker’s state, stop…sabotaging it?

    Not to mention these countries historically and relatively are far more patient with internal saboteurs than capitalist countries. Ask the Black Panthers, the union leaders, even the liberal BLM/Occupy protestors, how nominally going against American hegemony went for them…

    • Beat_da_Rich@lemmygrad.ml
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      2 years ago

      Honestly though. When you actually study the context of the political purges in the USSR it’s almost frustrating how forgiving the party under Stalin was in the beginning. Like things eventually escalated to extremity because they kept forgiving saboteurs and opportunists.

  • Rania 🇩🇿@lemmygrad.ml
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    2 years ago
    Algerian stuff

    Algeria has free health care, free education, work unions since 1954, free housing, cheap transport (completely free train rides if you’re a college student) and for a while it had the “الارض لمن يخدمها” policy (it was after pied noir left and Algeria couldn’t take care of lands it nationalized so it gave it away to farmers who worked on it) just wanted to share them

      • Rania 🇩🇿@lemmygrad.ml
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        2 years ago

        It takes a while,but you just place the order then wait a year or two until they build it then they give you the keys to live in it, I think it was like 6 million since 2013, this November they announced around 130k people

        The a football field here but sometimes there’s swings and slides, also renting out these after getting it for free will land you 15 years in jail

        • ☭ 𝗚𝗿𝗮𝗶𝗻𝗘𝗮𝘁𝗲𝗿 ☭@lemmygrad.mlM
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          2 years ago

          based

          Do you get access to some temporary free housing before it’s built? Are there any particular conditions for getting/keeping an apartment (aside from following the laws)? E.g. if you’re unable to work for whatever reason

          renting out these after getting it for free will land you 15 years in jail

          based2

          • Rania 🇩🇿@lemmygrad.ml
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            2 years ago

            Do you get access to some temporary free housing before it’s built?

            I am not sure, but most people get along the waiting period because the algerian society is completely fine with people as old as 30 living with their parents/family then placing order when marrying, if there’s a trend change and people start to look down upon this maybe they’ll give the fee

            Are there any particular conditions for getting/keeping an apartment (aside from following the laws)?

            Nope

    • GloriousDoubleK@lemmygrad.mlOP
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      2 years ago

      Thank you.

      I honestly have to argue what the fuck they wanna talk about when they mean they’re against tankies. Cause if it’s being against policy; I have ZERO idea why they arent just far right libertarians.

      • supersolid_snake@lemmygrad.ml
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        2 years ago

        When they are against tankies, they are for their self-interests. They just are too narcissistic to admit selfishness. That’s all.

          • GloriousDoubleK@lemmygrad.mlOP
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            2 years ago

            I want to make sure I understand your meaning…

            “We will make sure people have a bed to sleep in and a full belly. And we will make sure UP TO using the gun to see that it happens.”

            …Is that what you mean?

            Because I would LOVE and I mean fucking. LOVE for my country to be downright draconian as the 10th circle of Hell to see to it that the people have all that they need.

            Genuinely. Do you seriously have an issue with folks who want to hurt the common prosperity and welfare of the masses living a life of terror?

            Can you walk us through what you mean? Because forcing the common prosperity and security of the masses at gun point is unironically the most moral and right thing to do.

            Frankly. I seriously think these “socialists” who want to means test socialism should be put in prison.