• UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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    22 hours ago

    the oil industry.

    I guess it’s cool to kill civilians when they’re roughnecks?

    It’s not that I didn’t know any of these

    Strange that you would pretend ignorance up front

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      21 hours ago

      I think your implication that a strike on Russian oil infrastructure that kills a civilian working there is equivalent to a strike on a Ukrainian apartment building is wack.

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        16 hours ago

        I’ve heard Americans say the same about Middle Eastern casualties weighed against Israelis.

        Certain people’s lives simply don’t matter.

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          15 hours ago
          1. You heard other people say that, not me. Go respond to other people who are saying that instead of responding to someone who is NOT saying that (me).

          2. What is your argument here? Honestly I’m confused about what your stance is. How far do you extend this moral equivalency? A strong case can be made that Russia’s oil industry is a vital part of its war machine, but I don’t think you could say the same about a Ukrainian coffee shop. Is it just as bad to kill a child by bombing a school as it is to kill an adult by bombing a weapons manufacturing facility?

          From my perspective Ukrainian strikes are carried out in self defense against military related targets, while Russian strikes are often purposefully hitting targets not related to the military.

          You can learn more about Russian strikes on Ukrainian civilians here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attacks_on_civilians_in_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine

          • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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            14 hours ago

            From my perspective Ukrainian strikes are carried out in self defense

            And that’s the problem. Any amount of bloodletting is permissible if you stick “I think they’re defending themselves” in front of it.

            So long as you’re aligned with the US of course.

            • mgnome@piefed.social
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              So, searching through Russian news, I found like 1 mention of any casualties in 10 successful oil industry strikes.

              So that’s just mostly peaceful civilian oil bases getting hit, that supply peaceful oil to peaceful refineries that then supply peaceful gas to peaceful Russian war logistics and other parts of their peaceful war machine.

              You’re just holding Ukraine by much higher standards. While Russia deliberately kills civilians and then says “US made us do it”, so it’s okay. And Ukraine trying to carefully disarm the aggressor can also be labeled just as bad as aggression itself and blamed on US.

              Man, your worldview is so warped it hurts. And worst of all - you’ve tried to tell a Ukrainian that we should just “get over that” while Russia continues to do terroristic acts just for the sake of doing them.