• xantoxis@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    If you aren’t Monica Lewinsky, I’m not really interested in hearing your opinion about the consent. She’s more than capable of talking about her agency in that interaction, on her own. It’s too bad she’s never talked ab–

    oh wait, she most certainly has: https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2014/05/monica-lewinsky-speaks

    Talking about it in these terms makes it seem like she’s just a puppet. She’s a person, and she made choices. (Which she regrets, but she still owns that she made those choices.)

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      5 months ago

      Okay, but she was a freaking intern and he was the president. It’s an inappropriate professional relationship. You get fired for pulling something like that at most companies simply because there is a reporting relationship.

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        5 months ago

        Sure. Inappropriate, a firing offense, etc. All true. She even describes the treatment she received after it came out as “abuse”. All valid.

        Still consensual. Still not someone else’s place to talk about whether it was her decision or not; it was, and she has said so.

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            5 months ago

            When a power imbalance that vast is concerned consent doesn’t exist.

            At the time, sure. However, over a decade after the fact:

            Maintaining that her affair with Clinton was one between two consenting adults…

            So if the power imbalance was why she consented, you’d think she’d set the record straight and say she was pressured or forced into it despite saying yes at the time. But she didn’t. Ergo, she consented and your argument is invalid.