But as much as I hate Trump and think he should not be put on the ballot and should definitely be in prison, I do see how removing someone from the ballot could be a bad thing. In my opinion all it would do is set a precedent for removing people from the ballot just because they don’t like them. Is that why states are trying to remove Trump? Probably not. But if this is allowed I can clearly see other states trying to remove Biden from the ballot (If they haven’t tried already). And eventually it would just be another way for politicians to exercise this dick measuring contest they love so much by just removing each other from the ballot any reason they can think of. They already do absolutely batshit crazy things like gerrymandering to get votes. This would just turn into another version of voter suppression.
But let’s be honest here. Republicans are doing a speed run to impeach Biden so they can do the whole “SeE?! He WaS iMpEaChEd ToO!”
While it’s simple for us normal people to understand that one crime doesn’t pale in comparison to the other “crime”, for the alt right, they aren’t going for fair. They are going for power by any means necessary.
Yes and I agree with you. Trump does not belong on the ballot. But you and I know for a fact that this is just going to give people an excuse to try and remove people from the ballot out of revenge. Trump and his followers attempted an insurrection so we all know how far they would go. You really think they wouldn’t just try and remove opponents from the ballot because they want to?
If said people are worthy of being removed, they’ll be removed . If they’re not, they won’t. I don’t know what you’re worried about. They can’t remove Biden for no reason, and they’ll have to prove a reason.
“Biden staged an insurrection by taking away Texas’ power to police their own border!”
FFS, did you think this thing had to be logical? Look at how, having their man lose twice, the GOP is trying to impeach Biden. For nothing. They got nothing. Yet they’re trying.
Let me argue the conservative side a moment. And again, it doesn’t have to be logical.
“If Trump’s clearly guilty of insurrection, why has no court found him guilty in 3 years since 01/06? All I’m seeing is 3 years of wasted time trying to prosecute an innocent man, a political target. Show me where exactly he called for insurrection.”
I could go on all night, too exhausting thinking that way.
Hang Trump out to dry, let the chips fall where they may, but this is Pandora’s Box. Either way it rolls out, America will never be the same.
Y’all may find this PBS documentary interesting (below). Trump is in more trouble than you may think.
Commoners like us may find it obvious that Trump’s guilty as sin, but here they lay out how the January 6th Commission methodically nailed his ass to the wall. Jack Smith’s prosecution relies on the evidence brought out. The findings here are the blueprint for his case. I didn’t intend to watch it all at once, got sucked in for the duration.
Truly outstanding reporting. They presented the case honestly and without bias. Even though experienced lawyers like Ken White presented legitimate questions/hesitations, in the end those same experts basically said Trump is screwed.
I’m not really sure what point you’re making, but really do appreciate the documentary shared.
I look at this in the same way that I deal with dementia patients. Oh wow, that’s very interesting, hey I think “price is right” is on TV, let’s get you to the couch, and I’ll go get your lunch.
Why are we letting illogical opinion carry the same weight as tenured legal expertise and documented objective evidence?
Acting like people are trying to remove trump from the ballot “just because they don’t like them” is ridiculous. If anything, this would set a precedent that trying to interrupt election proceedings to declare yourself the winner is actually perfectly fine.
I live in one of the states that removed him from the ballot and my dad is a trumper and that is EXACTLY what he thinks. Because in his opinion Trump didn’t do anything wrong so he’s being taken off the ballot “because they don’t like him.”
But we also shouldn’t give them a means to exercise that stupidity. We kinda live in an age of revenge politics where too many peoples reason for voting is to vote against the guy they hate instead wanting to vote for the guy they like.
But as much as I hate Trump and think he should not be put on the ballot and should definitely be in prison, I do see how removing someone from the ballot could be a bad thing. In my opinion all it would do is set a precedent for removing people from the ballot just because they don’t like them. Is that why states are trying to remove Trump? Probably not. But if this is allowed I can clearly see other states trying to remove Biden from the ballot (If they haven’t tried already). And eventually it would just be another way for politicians to exercise this dick measuring contest they love so much by just removing each other from the ballot any reason they can think of. They already do absolutely batshit crazy things like gerrymandering to get votes. This would just turn into another version of voter suppression.
If someone does an insurrection they don’t get to be on the ballot. That’s pretty simple.
Did Biden do an insurrection? No? He gets to be on the ballot. It’s not complicated logic.
But let’s be honest here. Republicans are doing a speed run to impeach Biden so they can do the whole “SeE?! He WaS iMpEaChEd ToO!”
While it’s simple for us normal people to understand that one crime doesn’t pale in comparison to the other “crime”, for the alt right, they aren’t going for fair. They are going for power by any means necessary.
They can’t impeach without a crime. So there’s nothing to worry about.
Remove Trump or not, this originalist SCOTUS might remove Biden just because he is a Democrat.
Yes and I agree with you. Trump does not belong on the ballot. But you and I know for a fact that this is just going to give people an excuse to try and remove people from the ballot out of revenge. Trump and his followers attempted an insurrection so we all know how far they would go. You really think they wouldn’t just try and remove opponents from the ballot because they want to?
If said people are worthy of being removed, they’ll be removed . If they’re not, they won’t. I don’t know what you’re worried about. They can’t remove Biden for no reason, and they’ll have to prove a reason.
My sweet summer child, they impeached Clinton for lying about a blow job.
And rightfully so. He lied under oath.
“Biden staged an insurrection by taking away Texas’ power to police their own border!”
FFS, did you think this thing had to be logical? Look at how, having their man lose twice, the GOP is trying to impeach Biden. For nothing. They got nothing. Yet they’re trying.
Let me argue the conservative side a moment. And again, it doesn’t have to be logical.
“If Trump’s clearly guilty of insurrection, why has no court found him guilty in 3 years since 01/06? All I’m seeing is 3 years of wasted time trying to prosecute an innocent man, a political target. Show me where exactly he called for insurrection.”
I could go on all night, too exhausting thinking that way.
Hang Trump out to dry, let the chips fall where they may, but this is Pandora’s Box. Either way it rolls out, America will never be the same.
Y’all may find this PBS documentary interesting (below). Trump is in more trouble than you may think.
Commoners like us may find it obvious that Trump’s guilty as sin, but here they lay out how the January 6th Commission methodically nailed his ass to the wall. Jack Smith’s prosecution relies on the evidence brought out. The findings here are the blueprint for his case. I didn’t intend to watch it all at once, got sucked in for the duration.
Truly outstanding reporting. They presented the case honestly and without bias. Even though experienced lawyers like Ken White presented legitimate questions/hesitations, in the end those same experts basically said Trump is screwed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y44fyh4ap7k
I’m not really sure what point you’re making, but really do appreciate the documentary shared.
I look at this in the same way that I deal with dementia patients. Oh wow, that’s very interesting, hey I think “price is right” is on TV, let’s get you to the couch, and I’ll go get your lunch.
Why are we letting illogical opinion carry the same weight as tenured legal expertise and documented objective evidence?
I could not have made a better response. Thank you.
Acting like people are trying to remove trump from the ballot “just because they don’t like them” is ridiculous. If anything, this would set a precedent that trying to interrupt election proceedings to declare yourself the winner is actually perfectly fine.
I live in one of the states that removed him from the ballot and my dad is a trumper and that is EXACTLY what he thinks. Because in his opinion Trump didn’t do anything wrong so he’s being taken off the ballot “because they don’t like him.”
Well then your dad is an idiot, and imo we shouldn’t cater to idiots
But we also shouldn’t give them a means to exercise that stupidity. We kinda live in an age of revenge politics where too many peoples reason for voting is to vote against the guy they hate instead wanting to vote for the guy they like.
This is not a valid reason to allow an insurrectionist to wander around rabble rousing for another fascist takeover.