In a few years we will see Finland vs USSR levels of copium saying Ukraine actually won while losing nearly a quarter of its territory
All the “Putin wants to conquer and annex all of Ukraine” shit is good prep for “We won because we stopped Putin from conquering all of Ukraine, we didn’t want those regions full of Russian traitors anyway”. Which is funny because “conquering all of Ukraine” has only ever been a victory condition for Zelensky and friends.
In fact, considering how much control over their national resources and economic policy they are going to give up to then IMF, Ukranie doesn’t need any of its territory to win.
lib cope is always funny. They can’t ever just take the the L. Its always, “this is hiw we actually won,” or the classic “it’s complicated.”🅱️olsonaro is the only lib who accepted his defeat accordingly lol
Did he? I don’t remember him saying “I’ve lost, it’s alright guys” to his supporters. He’ve been saying there was a fraud in 2018 (which he fucking WON) and 2022 elections; he never came in public and said “Hey guys, could you please stop blocking roads, stop making protests all over Brazil and stop asking for a coup in front of the army barracks?”.
After he lost, he simply vanished for almost a month, and neither the Federal Police nor the army under his command did something to stop the protests. In fact, an army general came in public and said to Bolsonaro supporters: “Don’t lose faith” - even though they were causing chaos all over the country.
At last, we had Jan 8, which is equivalent to USA’s Capitol riot. Bolsonaro supporters invaded the congress, the presidential palace and the supreme court, and trashed the places (fortunately, no one was working there this day). All of these things wouldn’t happen if Bolsonaro came in public and accepted his defeat.
That’s, not what happened. We didn’t get our crappier version of the capitol invasion because he admitted defeat
then they got thrown into lulags
No, Bolsonaro refused to accept defeat, he tried everything to reverse the election results. Until the Army, the Air Force and the neoliberal Ghouls told him to accept defeat. Even so, he still tried to stage a coup in the government on January 8th.
And unlike in the US, there was an actual document that the military wanted Lula to sign in order to order the army to take over the government. It’s a bit like the one they made Pedro Castillo sign, but it’s not the same thing.
Lula decided not to sign and chose to use his powers as president to intervene in state security and order the police to repress and arrest the Bolsonaro supporters. And so they ended up being arrested, forced to shower and vaxxed.
Or “we actually didn’t care about that conflict”
“Arrakis teaches the attitude of the knife - chopping off what’s incomplete and saying: ‘Now, it’s complete because it’s ended here.’
- from "Collected Sayings of Muad’Dib’’ by the Princess Irulan”
