Here we go, the first Presidential debate between Biden and Trump begins at 9 PM Eastern/6 PM Pacific.

How to watch it:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/25/politics/how-to-watch-cnn-debate/index.html

"The CNN Presidential Debate will air live on CNN, CNN International and CNN en Español, and via streaming on Max for subscribers and without a cable login on CNN.com. CNN will make the debate available to simulcast on additional broadcast and cable news networks.

You can also follow CNN’s live debate coverage on CNN.com, which will include analysis and fact checking."

"According to parameters set by CNN in May, all participating debaters had to appear on a sufficient number of state ballots to reach the 270 electoral vote threshold to win the presidency and receive at least 15% in four separate national polls of registered or likely voters that meet CNN’s standards for reporting.

Polls that meet those standards are those sponsored by CNN, ABC News, CBS News, Fox News, Marquette University Law School, Monmouth University, NBC News, The New York Times/Siena College, NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist College, Quinnipiac University, The Wall Street Journal and The Washington Post."

Edit And that’s it! Thanks for watching everyone!

tl;dw:

Consensus is Trump didn’t so much as beat Biden as Biden beat himself.

The real loser is CNN who failed to fact check anyone, and there were obvious fact checks on both sides.

  • Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Good god, I had to stop watching after the abortion question.

    Trump actually has managed to keep his composure so far. Sure, he’s spouting out lie upon lie that CNN is allowing to continue un-fact-checked. But he at least sounds like he knows what he’s talking about, and is showing something resembling energy.

    Biden looked like a nursing home patient that should’ve been guided out by his nurse. He sounds even worse. That freeze-up at the end with him stuttering and just blurting out a random “I beat Medicare” or whatever that was is going to fuel the entire Republican campaign for the next 5 months. That is literally the exact moment Biden lost this election, mark my words. The man is performing like he’s sundowning.

    If he gets better, God bless him. But I cannot see how anyone can have confidence in that man after that performance. He doesn’t look like he’ll make it another 4 months let alone another 4 years.

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      4 months ago

      Pains me to say I agree with you. Biden with that slack jawed confused look, looking down, off into nothing, barely moving. This is Nixon/Kennedy debate x 100.

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      Why are you focusing on Biden? At least he’s answering the questions. Trump can’t answer the correct question.

      He’s usually on the previous one. For one response Trump didn’t answer it at all and ended early. The moderator was like “uhh you have 80 seconds left”. That’s dementia. Biden’s hoarse throat is not.

      Edit: another one “uhh sir, the question was about addiction. You have 67 seconds left.”

      • Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world
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        4 months ago

        And until he says something more memorable than answering the first question with a bunch of stuttering, ums, uhs, and then a random “I beat Medicare!”, whatever that means, then none of that will matter to most people. That soundbyte was an absolute disaster that he may not recover from.

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          4 months ago

          It’s already forgotten. No one cares. Biden has had a stutter since childhood. No one cares.

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            4 months ago

            I understand you’re trying to do damage control. Look, most of us are still voting against Trump, but don’t piss on us and tell us it’s raining. What Biden demonstrated wasn’t a stutter, it was clearly severe cognitive decline.

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              Uh what? Of course he’s declined. He’s old, just like trump. Trump is also clearly not his former self, from 2016 or even 2020. They are old af and that’s not news.

              The difference is that Biden did occasionally answer the question, and his answers were pretty good. Trump barely stayed on topic, let alone made sense. After the debate I know more about what Biden wants to do and nothing about trump’s policies.

              For an undecided voter, Biden losing his train of thought or mumbling some words is not terrible because he always recovered on the next question. Trump started out ok but definitely ignored important questions (abortion, his criminal conviction, Ukraine, etc.). Biden said what he needed to and has room to improve in the next debate.

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                “Occasionally answering the questions” is not a passing grade for this debate. The minimum bar was “appear competent” and Biden couldn’t pull it off. Trump didn’t “win”, but it’s easy to see that Biden lost. I’m still going to vote blue, but Biden/Harris WILL lose us the election.

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                4 months ago

                The difference is that Biden did occasionally answer the question, and his answers were pretty good.

                Did he? Were they? I couldn’t understand most of what he said because he was hoarse and lost his train of thought often enough that what I could make out was hard to follow.

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            4 months ago

            That was not a stutter.

            I clipped that from C-SPAN2, it’s absolutely going viral.

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            Biden didn’t stutter when he was Obama’s VP and his brain was still intact. Seems like everyone but you cares.

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              He did. He was also known as a gaffe machine. Just because you didn’t notice doesn’t mean everyone else didn’t.

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      This was the only part I saw because of someone posting a clip. Jesus Fucking Christ, the man is full fledged potato