• ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works
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    I don’t think New England is a useful category anymore, since modern-day Maine doesn’t has more in common with the Boston area than it does with upstate New York. I’d extend what they’re calling the “NYC Metro” area from Boston in the north to Philadelphia (or maybe even D.C.) in the south as a sort of east coast mega-city.

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      Head on over to Boston and tell them that they’re in the NYC Metro area, I dare you. I want to watch.

      Instead, split New England into Southern and Northern. Southern includes Mass, Rhode Island, Eastern Connecticut (the NYC Metro area is fine there), and south New Hampshire. Northern is everything else. Some may argue that Portland, Maine should be included in Southern, but I argue that while the culture has some similarities to Southern New England, it’s more similar to the rest of Maine. Go to a redneck party in Southern Maine and start talking about the Old Port. Pay attention to how many people have an opinion.

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        I’m not saying it would be called “the NYC metro area”. I’ve lived in Boston and I’ve lived in NYC and I think that while people in Boston would indeed object, the cultural differences are largely superficial. In my experience, Boston is more different from southern New Hampshire than it is from NYC.

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      I’d extend what they’re calling the “NYC Metro” area from Boston in the north to Philadelphia (or maybe even D.C.) in the south as a sort of east coast mega-city.

      What you’re describing is called the I95 Corridor.

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    4 months ago

    Central Texas is nothing like East Texas, so that makes the rest of this map suspect.

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      Yea, this map is nonsense.

      I’ve never heard half of these names used like this.

      “Chesapeake”… First I’ve never heard it used as a region, second the region so labeled on the map would be better called Mid-Atlantic (and that wouldn’t really be accurate either) that really is the Mid-Atlantic region.

      Third, the Chesapeake doesn’t even extend to PA, let alone up to NY or Jersey, over there is the Delaware Bay, so should we call that region “Delaware”?

      I’ve never once heard anyone call that region Chesapeake.

      Then there’s the Texas nonsense - there’s West Texas, Central, East (sometimes jokingly referred to as Arkansas) I’ll allow Rio Grande though I’ve never heard that used.

      The West stuff… Yea, no. The Rockies, OK.

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        Also, it looks like the “Central Valley” in CA extends uphill to the top of the Sierras and Lake Tahoe. Plus “Socal” is as far north as Carmel.

        No. Carmel is the Central Coast. You might as well add that to the Central Valley and add some new group for the Sierra Nevada mountains that includes northern CA above Sacramento. The north coast is culturally and geographically similar to the Sierras. “Socal” doesn’t extend farther north than Santa Barbara.

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          “Cascadia” has some unfortunate connotations in regards to white supremacy (especially in Oregon).

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      I agree, but also they’re different regions on this map. I’m more upset about being lumped in with Dallas. Ultimately when you’re pumping large areas together, there are going to be dissimilar places within it, but they might also be more similar than some of us care to admit

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      A lot of those are overlapping, like Appalacha and the Great Lakes both extend into Upstate NY, much of lower Appalacha is also considered mid-atlantic, etc

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      The map labels central Texas as Texas and east Texas as Deep South. They’re labeled differently. I don’t understand your comment.

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    If you go up to any Hoosier (resident of Indiana) and tell them they live in the Ohio River Valley, you’re getting punched in the face

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    I’ve never heard anyone refer to the mid Atlantic south, but the piedmont is common.

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    Neat!

    Though, I’ve found a lot of folks from a lot of parts of this map would just tell me they’re “from the Midwest”.

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      I’ve found a lot of folks from a lot of parts of this map would just tell me they’re “from the Midwest”.

      I would venture to say that the part of all of these regions adjacent to the Midwest could be considered subregions of it. Many people you’d meet in these areas would be likely to say they’re in the Midwest.

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      That’s shorthand we use for people outside of the Midwest or those unfamiliar with the region.

      It’s similar to a person from a suburb of Boston just saying they’re from Boston for simplicity’s sake even if a lot of important nuance and context is lost.

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      That’s because the majority of these regions are horseshit. Nearly everything around the Midwest in this map doesn’t exist and we’ll just say we’re from the Midwest

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        I’ve started hearing Great Lakes more and more from people in MI, MN, and WI in the last several years.

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      Don’t worry, living in what the map calls “lower midwest” the midwest will do its best to not include.

      I live in Missouri, friends living in midwest states “Missouri isn’t Midwest.” They can’t tell you exactly where it is, but it sure isn’t midwest. And the exclusion seems to continue all the way northward until I’m convinced Wisconsin is just attempting to rename itself “Midwest” so that no one else can claim it.

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    It would be pretty interesting if voting was broken down by these regions. It would probably be a lot more culturally representative.

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    Absolutely never will you catch a southern Illinois saying we’re from/in the south. We say Midwest or southern Illinois to be more specific.

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      I never understood why people think WV is a southern state. 1) It fucking snows and is cold af in winter. 2) We literally exist because we ain’t traitors.

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      It’s funny because I don’t know anyone east of Springfield that would consider themselves the “Ohio River Valley” either. I feel like the borders should be closer to state lines. I would like a reference for this map if anyone has it.

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      That’s a tough one because Tri-State can refer to different states. I’m guessing for you it’s New York, New Jersey, Connecticut?

      Having grown up in South Jersey, that was also called the Tri-State area, but it referred to New Jersey, Pennsylvania, and New York (sometimes Delaware instead of New York).

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      Don’t trust it. At best, some of it used to be accurate in a useful way. But even then, the terminology wouldn’t match well.

      The closest you could get in comparison would be placing outlines of Prussia over modern Europe and saying that it was still a region. Yeah, there’s some connections, but it ain’t gonna help you much

  • MindTraveller@lemmy.ca
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    4 months ago

    This guide is inaccurate. The region labelled midwest is actually in the east. And the region labelled deep south is actually in the northern hemisphere.

    • TheFriar@lemm.ee
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      Well, they don’t even get all of Texas. So, who cares what they have to say. Can’t even keep their whole state. Who knew “Texas” was just a small chunk in the middle.