Hello comrades! Friendly reminder that American leftists continue to be threatened by gun loving conservatives. You should know how to defend yourself and you should probably own a gun. Find an active SRA, John Brown Gun Club, or (if things are dire) pink pistols or other “apolitical” gun club.
I’ve been in the SRA for 4 years, it’s not great, but I met comrades local to me. I’ve learned a lot from them and fash who post good firearms advice and I love to share that when I can.
Open for questions and I’ll post more getting started stuff if this doesn’t get banned.
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It has been shown repeatedly that owning a gun makes you less safe. It increases the likelihood that you will be the victim of a crime, homicide, or suicide (accidental or otherwise).
We need fewer guns not more.
Point taken. I agree with you. I’ve always agreed with those facts.
But there’s an armed an increasingly well trained and organized movement of would be brown shirts. They’ve repeatedly shown their willingness to escalate violence at protests and threaten violence towards LGBT events. They’ve demonstrated a willingness to act on the federal government with violence. And huge swathsof that population are police.
They have guns. I’m in a queer relationship. I’m a target. I have guns.
Completely fair. Since your eyes are wide open, I respect you and your choices. I know I can be too preachy sometimes, but I wish you the best. I genuinely hope you never need your gun.
Me too, comrade.
So long as one other person on this earth is armed, your best have a gun too.
The “victim of a crime, homicide” thing is likely just a correlation. If person is more likely to be in danger, they are more likely to have a gun.
I’ve seen some people posit that the Black Panther’s armed patrols deterred police violence in their communities. On the other hand, I guess their leaders were eventually killed by the Feds. As a side effect, the Black Panthers also caused governments and the NRA to support gun control, lol.
We need more groups like the Black Panthers to dissuade the police and the state from committing violence against people.
But, for Breonna Taylor’s BF owning and operating a gun when police rwongly executed a No-Knock Illegal Warrant, the BF shooting at armed unknown unannounced “intruders” directly led to her death.
Police or the state or the judge were not at fault ( even though everything they did was illegal ) but it was the gun-defense by the BF that killed her.
:smh: when I hear how good the 2A is compared to the entire US constitution.
Study after study has shown that having a gun in the home was linked with nearly three times higher odds that someone would be killed at home by a family member or intimate acquaintance.
more permissive gun laws are making people less safe. In the states with the weakest gun laws, gun deaths rose 46 percent from 2012 to 2020, compared with just a 7 percent increase in the states with the strongest gun laws over that same period. Source
I mean, that would obviously be the case. It depends on the person and personal circumstances. For some people (maybe even most), domestic violence is not a threat at all. The conclusion to the second article you linked is, “state-level firearm ownership rates are related to rates of domestic but not nondomestic firearm homicide.”
I think it’s probably not good that the increasing number of fascist-leaning people in the US are much more likely to be own guns than non-fascists. I’m very much pro gun-control, but until guns are banned, I think more leftist and liberals should own and know how to use guns if their situation permits.
It’s totally your right to believe that more leftists should own guns, I have no issue with that opinion, but the data we have says that those people will end up less safe overall. Of course it all depends on the person and their personal circumstances, but that’s not what big statistical studies are about, they’re about generalizations that can be applied to large populations of different types of people. And the best data we have shows that owning a gun makes you or someone you love three-times more likely to be killed by that gun.
I agree with you in that Joe Schmoe shouldn’t be having guns in his home. That doesn’t mean you can’t support the existence of gun ranges and practice using guns! It may come in useful one day, even if you don’t get to bring your gun home with you.
It may come in useful one day,
By that logic, I need to learn to fly helicopter. The odds are higher I’ll solve something with a helicopter. As former infantry, I assert that guns don’t solve any problems ever.
Well, I can fly a helicopter…
100% I’m all for gun safety training and gun ranges.
No. I am not good with hand-eye coordination and I can’t envision myself ever being able to kill someone.
This is something I also struggle with. So much of the lefty philosophy is around acknowledging and respecting everyone as intrinsically human with a life worth preserving. Often I have a hard time hating the average Trump supporter or fascist shill because I know there’s a million factors out of their control that got them there.
I have to remind myself constantly that my life is worth more than someone’s who’s chosen to harm another.
Guns aren’t for everyone and I understand that. I don’t think I could ever become a partisan in a revolution but I don’t intend to be a statistic. If you do choose to have a weapon for self defense please at least train with it. Even pepper spray you can get refillable water squirting versions.
If you do want to try guns one day, I’d suggest a Pistol Caliber Carbine like the Ruger PCC. It shoots pistol rounds out of a carbine/rifle so it’s much easier to control. The rifle in this picture is a KP-9.
Dupe post
Did I mess something up? I’ve never posted to lemmy before.
It was posted twice
Fight fire with fire and watch the world burn
I prefer
“Do no harm. Take no shit.”
